> Am 10.02.2020 um 09:50 schrieb Olblak <[email protected]>:
> 
> Let's bring back the infrastructure point of view into the discussion
> 
> Jira to Jira Cloud INFRA-2010 
> <https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/INFRA-2010>
> If someone is willing to do more experimentation with it, be my guest but for 
> what I understand contributors require an Atlassian account to connect on 
> Jira cloud
> so no GitHub SSO, neither LDAP auth and max 5000 users, which also means 
> regular old accounts and spammers cleanup.
> For the context, today we have 104626 accounts on Jira
> -> In the current state, because of the identity management, I am not very 
> optimistic about migrating all projects to Jira cloud, 
> 

Do we still need our LDAP if we migrate Jira to the cloud? What other services 
are using our LDAP? (Can ci.jenkins use GitHub Authentication?)

> Remaining on issues.jenkins-ci.orb, [INFRA-2262 
> <https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/INFRA-2262>], 
> No integration between Jira and Github as it uses Github API and we hit the 
> limit very quickly so we had to disable it 
> The second element, excepted Tyler and me, nobody "maintains" it and 
> unfortunately, we can only accept trusted people to work on 
> issues.jenkins-ci.org <http://issues.jenkins-ci.org/> as it contains the 
> security work.
> so I don't see how we can keep maintaining it unless we have someone 
> dedicated to Jira who upgrade Jira every several weeks and also work on 
> performance
> -> In the current state, because of the maintaining effort, I am seriously 
> not optimistic to stay on issues.jenkins-ci.org 
> <http://issues.jenkins-ci.org/>
> 
> Moving to GitHub issues
> Identity management and maintaining effort is solved, but some extra work is 
> needed to migrate Jira tickets to Github issues. 
> And personally I am a bit concerned about managing the all Jenkins project on 
> GitHub for multiple reasons but they are largely compensated by not having to 
> maintain a ticketing system. I also think that another concern that I have is 
> because I am not as experienced as I am with Jira which is why I am willing 
> to give it a try for a small project like the hosting project. but if we do 
> that, we need to be clear on an end date for the experimentation.
> 
> Maybe someone has another proposition like neither Github or Jira 
> 
> Cheers
> 
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> On Sun, Feb 9, 2020, at 6:24 PM, Daniel Beck wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > > On 9. Feb 2020, at 00:53, Chris Kilding <[email protected]> 
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > there seems to be common ground on solving the *access* problem for users 
> > > that report issues.
> > > 
> > > If we can get a GitHub connector up and running for Jira, so that any 
> > > user who wants to report an issue can simply sign in with the GitHub 
> > > account that they (in all likelihood) have already got, we can solve the 
> > > access problem and lower the barrier to entry for reporters.
> > > 
> > > I don’t know the split between how many reporters we lose because they 
> > > can’t (or won’t) make a Jira account vs. how many we lose because they 
> > > can’t navigate Jira once they’re in. But it would be a start.
> > 
> > So far I've never felt like we needed more bugs reported, or features 
> > requested. We collectively suck at responding and fixing anyway. What's 
> > the point of making it easier to have one's issue ignored?
> > 
> > (To be clear: This is not a good situation. But it seems we should fix 
> > _that_ first.)
> > 
> > Also, I haven't seen any proof so far for the assumption that everyone 
> > has a GitHub account anyway. That seems like a very OSS developer 
> > centric view of the world.
> > 
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