> would it make sense to create a separate Lucene module for ANN search ?

>From a bit of my experience with LUCENE-9004, it is currently impossible to
plug in or opt in custom codecs and indexing chain for aknn search without
touching lucene-core module (plz correct that if it's wrong).
I think LUCENE-9322 (unified low-level Codec/Format for dense vectors)
would open the possibility for us to experiment different aknn algorithms
on some sandbox modules or even separated jars from Lucene itself.

Tomoko


2020年7月17日(金) 17:00 Tommaso Teofili <tommaso.teof...@gmail.com>:

> would it make sense to create a separate Lucene module for ANN search ?
> we could then experiment with the different approaches and compare them
> across the same benchmarks.
>
> On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 at 23:14, Ali Akhtar <ali@ali.actor> wrote:
>
> > I’m a bit of a layman in this area, but if we are talking about formats
> for
> > vectors, I vote for the one used by FastAI word vectors. It’s pretty easy
> > to work with.
> >
> > If we are talking about the same / similiar things, if not just ignore me
> > 😀
> >
> > On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 at 7:06 PM, Michael Sokolov <msoko...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > We have some prototype implementations in the issues you found.  If
> > > you want to try out the approaches in those issues, you could build
> > > Lucene from source and patch it, but there is no release containing
> > > KNN/vector support. We're still working to establish consensus on what
> > > the best way forward is. I think the most fruitful thing we can do at
> > > the moment is establish a format for storing and accessing vectors
> > > that will support different approaches since there is such a rich
> > > variety of algorithms and approaches in this area. The last issue you
> > > pointed to is focused on the format.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 11:20 AM Alex K <aklib...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Mikhail,
> > > >
> > > > I'm not sure about the state of ANN in lucene proper. Very interested
> > to
> > > > see the response from others.
> > > > I've been doing some work on ANN for an Elasticsearch plugin:
> > > > http://elastiknn.klibisz.com/
> > > > I think it's possible to extract my custom queries and modeling code
> so
> > > > that it's elasticsearch-agnostic and can be used directly in Lucene
> > apps.
> > > > However I'm much more familiar with Elasticsearch's APIs and
> > > usage/testing
> > > > patterns than I am with raw Lucene, so I'd likely need to get some
> help
> > > > from the Lucene community.
> > > > Please LMK if that sounds interesting to anyone.
> > > >
> > > > - Alex
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 11:11 AM Mikhail <wmas...@mail.ru.invalid>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > >            I want to incorporate semantic search in my project,
> which
> > > uses
> > > > > Lucene. I want to use sentence embeddings and ANN (approximate
> > nearest
> > > > > neighbor) search. I found the related Lucene issues:
> > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-9004 ,
> > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-9136 ,
> > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-9322 . I see that
> there
> > > > > are some related work and related PRs. What is the current state of
> > > this
> > > > > functionality?
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Mikhail
> > > > >
> > > > >
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