Unfortunately, there's no concise summarization of the code to post.

As a follow-up to the situation, after throwing more RAM at the problem (from 2GB to 10GB of process space) we no longer see OOM errors and also no longer see the IndexWriter create thousands of files; the OOM error did appear to be causally related to the thousands of files problem.

I'll post more info if I ever sleuth anything more out of it.

-Micah

On Aug 18, 2009, at 10:33 AM, Jason Rutherglen wrote:

Micah,

If you can post some of your code, it may be easier to identify the
problem you're experiencing.

-J

On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Micah Jaffe<mi...@affinitycircles.com> wrote:
Hi, thanks for the response! The (custom) searchers that are falling out of cache are indeed calling close on their IndexReader in finalize(); they are not calling close on themselves as that appears to be a no-op when creating
an IndexSearcher with a reader.  The searchers are just extended
IndexSearchers which have notion of their lifetime and are only built with
IndexReaders.

The OOM does appear to be a symptom of reopening an IndexWriter, I haven't seen an OOM originate from the IndexWriter. Here's a partial stack trace (fyi, we are closing the old reader following the pattern of "if the fresh
reader != old reader"):

java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space at
org .apache .lucene.index.MultiSegmentReader.<init>(MultiSegmentReader.java:160)
at
org .apache .lucene.index.MultiSegmentReader.doReopen(MultiSegmentReader.java: 203)
at
org.apache.lucene.index.DirectoryIndexReader $2.doBody(DirectoryIndexReader.java:98)
at
org.apache.lucene.index.SegmentInfos $FindSegmentsFile.run(SegmentInfos.java:636)
at
org .apache .lucene.index.DirectoryIndexReader.reopen(DirectoryIndexReader.java: 92)
[... many more lines of our server code and Tomcat stack ...]
What I don't have visibility to right now is what a IndexWriter(s) might be
up to at that point, nor which index just exploded the memory.
Everything I've read about trying to handle OOMs in Java is "be careful, but you're likely screwed", so I'm unsure if I should try to capture the error and mop up what I can or if that will just cause more problems. On indexes that have the large number of files problem, it appears the next time an IndexWriter is opened on that index in a new process (after the write.lock is nuked post shut-down), it collapses the files back down to a
sane number (at close() maybe?).
I'll see if I can work in the infoStream suggestion, thanks...
-Micah
On Aug 18, 2009, at 4:35 AM, Michael McCandless wrote:

Are you .close()ing your IndexReaders when they fall out of the MRU cache?

Seems like there are two problems... 1) why are you hitting OOMEs?
Seems likely you're just doing too much at once.... can you ask the
JRE to get you a heap dump when it hits OOME?

2) Why is IndexWriter creating zillions of tiny files?  This one is
a.... does the OOME pass through IndexWriter?  If you turn on
infoStream in your writer, get the problem to happen, and post back
the resulting output, it'll give us a better idea what's going on.
Could you also post a representative subset of these 200K filenames?
It sounds like somehow IndexWriter is getting stuck into a state where
it thinks it must flush segments far too frequently.

Mike

On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:31 PM, Micah Jaffe<mi...@affinitycircles.com >
wrote:

The Problem: periodically we see thousands of files get created from an IndexWriter in a Java process in a very short period of time. Since we started trying to track this, we saw an index go from ~25 files to over
200K
files in about a half hour.

The Context: a hand-rolled, all-in-one Lucene server (2.3.2 codebase)
that
can respond to searches and perform index updates, running under Tomcat,
on
Java 1.6 on 32-bit Linux using 2GB of memory, reading/writing to local
disk.
This is a threaded environment where we're serving about 15-20/ requests
a
second (mostly searches, with a 10:1 search/update ratio). We wrap all
of
the update code around IndexWriter to make sure all threads are only ever using one writer and never close an actively used writer. We cache about
40
IndexSearchers (really IndexReaders) using an MRU cache and leave it to
Java
to garbage collect those that leave scope. We can potentially serve ~150 different search indexes, most with document count under 1 million, with fairly sparsely populated fields and under about 100 fields. We do not store a lot of information in any index, generally just IDs that we then
use
for DB look-ups. Our biggest index is about 7GB on disk and comprises roughly 18 million records and is almost always in use (either searched
or
updated). We sometimes go days without seeing the The Problem and we've
seen it happen twice in the span of 4 hours.

Accompanying Symptom: we see an OOM error where we do not have enough
heap
space. I'm not sure if the explosion of files triggers or results from
the
error.  This is the only error we see accompanying the problem;
performance
and memory usage seem fine up to the OOM error.

Current Workaround: taking the same server to a 64-bit machine and
throwing
10GB of RAM at it seems (4 days counting now) to have "solved" the
problem.

What I'd really like is to understand the underlying problem, and we have some theories, but before charging down one way or another I was hoping
to
get an idea if a) people have seen something similar before and b) what
they
did.  Our theories:
- Opening IndexReaders faster than Java can garbage collect those that
are
out of scope. We do know that too many open readers (e.g. around 100 of
our
indexes) can exhaust memory. This scenario seems unlikely given our
usage;
we have 2-3 heavily used indexes and very light usage on the rest. That said, the with some recent code changes we decided to rely on garbage collection to fix another bug (race condition where a searcher was being
used as it was being closed).
- Hit a race condition with IndexWriter, with our code or in this version
of
the library, and it goes nuts.
- Particular heavy-duty search/update hits, e.g. potentially iterating across all documents (not likely) or updating a large number of documents
in
an index (more likely).

Really scientific, I know, but I'd welcome any discussion that involves
juggling Java heap (what do you do with your OOMs?), our particular
problem
or a threaded environment using Lucene (like Solr).

thanks!
Micah

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