BTW, upcoming changes in Lucene for flexible indexing should improve the RAM usage of the terms index substantially:

    https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-1458

In the current (first) iteration on that patch, TermInfo is no longer used at all when loading the index. I think for a typical index this will likely cut in half the RAM used by the terms index.

But... this won't be available for some time (it's still a work in progress).

Mike

Chris Lu wrote:

So looks like you are not really doing much sorting? This index divisor
affects reader.terms(), but not too much with sorting.

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On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 6:21 PM, Zhibin Mai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

It is a cache tunning setting in IndexReader. It can be set via method
setTermInfosIndexDivisor(int).

Thanks,

Zhibin




________________________________
From: Chris Lu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: java-user@lucene.apache.org
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 7:07:21 PM
Subject: Re: how to estimate how much memory is required to support the
large index search

Calculation looks right. But what's the "Index divisor" that you mentioned?

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site: http://www.dbsight.net
demo: http://search.dbsight.com
Lucene Database Search in 3 minutes:

http://wiki.dbsight.com/index.php?title=Create_Lucene_Database_Search_in_3_minutes
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On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 5:00 PM, Zhibin Mai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Aleksander,

I figured it out that most of heap was consumed by the Term cache. In our case, the index has 233 millions of terms and 6.4 millions of them were loaded into the cache when we did the search. I roughly did a calculation
that each term will need how much memory, it is about
16 bytes for Term Object + 32 bytes for TermInfo Object + 24 bytes for
String Object for term text + 2 * length(Char[]) for term text.

In our case, the average length of term text is 25 characters, that means each term needs at least 122 bytes. The cache for 6.4 millions of terms needs 6.4 * 122 = 780MB. Plus 200MB for caching norm, the RAM for cache
is
larger than 980MB. We work around the cache issue for Terms by setting
index
divisor of the IndexReader to a higher value. Actually, the performance
of
search is good even using index divisor as 4.

Thanks,

Zhibin




________________________________
From: Aleksander M. Stensby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: java-user@lucene.apache.org
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 2:31:04 AM
Subject: Re: how to estimate how much memory is required to support the
large index search

One major factor that may result in heap space problems is if you are
doing
any form of sorting when searching. Do you have any form of default sort
in
your application? Also, the type of field used for sorting is important
with
regard to memory consumption.

This issue has been discussed before on the list. (You can search the
archive for sorting and memory consumption.)

- Aleksander

On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 14:36:36 +0100, Zhibin Mai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hello,

I
am a beginner on using lucene. We developed an application to
create and search index using lucene 2.3.1. We would like to know how
to estimate how much memory is required to support
the index search given an index.

Recently,
the size of the index has reached to about 200GB with 197M of documents
and 223M of terms. Our application starts having intermittent
"OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space" when we use
it to search the index. We use JProfiler to get the following memory
allocation when we do one keyword search:

char[]                                                        332MB
org.apache.lucene.index.TermInfo            194MB
java.lang.String                                        146MB
org.apache.lucene.index.Term                99,823KB
org.apache.lucene.index.Term                24,956KB
org.apache.lucene.index.TermInfo[]        24,956KB

byte[]                                                    188MB
long[]                                                    49,912KB

The memory allocation for the first 6 types of objects does not change
when we change the search criteria. Could you please give me some advice
what major factors will affect the memory allocation
and how those factors will affect the memory usage precisely on search?
Is it possible to reduce the memory usage on search?


Thank you,


Zhibin






--Aleksander M. Stensby
Senior software developer
Integrasco A/S
www.integrasco.no

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