OK, sounds good. Fall will be here before you know it!
Mike
Christopher Kolstad wrote:
The only way to make this work with svn is if you can have svn
perform a
switch without doing any removal, then restart your IndexSearcher,
then do a
normal svn switch to remove the now unused files. Does svn have an
option
to "switch but don't remove any removed files"? Because
IndexSearcher holds
these files open, svn will not be able to remove the now unused
files until
IndexSearcher switches.
Exactly, I'll hear with the svn-user list to see if anyone has had any
experiece with a similar problem, but it looks like the svn switch
command
automatically performs an svn up instantly after having switched to
the new
URL. (I.e. it will remove the file)
Or ... for every update to your index you could plant 2 tags, the
first one
reflecting only added files, and the 2nd one reflecting removed
files.
Then, with your IndexSearcher still running, do an svn switch to
the first
tag, then restart the IndexSearcher, then svn switch to the 2nd
one. I
think that'd work?
That sounds like a rather good idea, SVN does have diff between two
different tags, so it should be possible to quickly figure out which
files
are added and which are removed (or modified (in the case of the
index I
guess all the files should be new)).
This should only be necessary on Windows ... UNIX platforms let you
remove a
file even when it's held open by a process ... the file's bytes
still exist
on disk (just without a filename pointing to them) and are only
deleted when
the last open file handle on that file is closed -- "delete on last
close".
That's what I thought, but it feels good to get confirmation. We've
been
trying to move our customer to linux for a long time. Hopefully it
will
happen this fall and we won't have to do it this way anymore.
Appreciate all the help Mike, we got an OK from the customer to wait
until
the fall and hopefully a move to linux. So I'll leave it be for now,
though
not perfect, at least it works the way it did before I started to
attempt
the improvement ;)
Christopher (Chris also works ;) )
On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Michael McCandless <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
OK, got it.
The only way to make this work with svn is if you can have svn
perform a
switch without doing any removal, then restart your IndexSearcher,
then do a
normal svn switch to remove the now unused files. Does svn have an
option
to "switch but don't remove any removed files"? Because
IndexSearcher holds
these files open, svn will not be able to remove the now unused
files until
IndexSearcher switches.
Or ... for every update to your index you could plant 2 tags, the
first one
reflecting only added files, and the 2nd one reflecting removed
files.
Then, with your IndexSearcher still running, do an svn switch to
the first
tag, then restart the IndexSearcher, then svn switch to the 2nd
one. I
think that'd work?
This should only be necessary on Windows ... UNIX platforms let you
remove
a file even when it's held open by a process ... the file's bytes
still
exist on disk (just without a filename pointing to them) and are only
deleted when the last open file handle on that file is closed --
"delete on
last close".
Mike
Christopher Kolstad wrote:
Hi.
First, thanks for the reply.
Why does SubversionUpdate require shutting down the
IndexSearcher? What
goes wrong?
SubversionUpdate requires shutting down the IndexSearcher in our
current
implementation because the old index files are deleted in the tag
we're
switching to. Sorry, just realised that my last mail didn't state
that we
don't in fact to an "svn up", but rather an "svn switch". Thus,
when we
try
to perform the update SubversionUpdate fails due to file lock
issues when
trying to update (deleting the old lucene files) the lucene index
directory
(The relevant code for the update action is quoted below).
You might want to switch instead to rsync.
I'm hoping I won't have to, firstly because I'm more familiar with
subversion, secondly because that would require me to configure
rsync for
windows, and I'm still not sure if that will help anything with
the file
lock issues we're trying to avoid.
A Lucene index is fundamentally write once, so, syncing changes over
should
simply be copying over new files and removing now-deleted files.
You
won't
be able to remove files held open by the IndexSearcher, but, once
the
IndexSearcher restarts you'd then be able to delete those files
on the
next
sync.
So I should be able to run the switch and then restart the
IndexSearcher,
instead of turning off the IndexSearcher, run the switch, turn on
the
IndexSearcher. I'd see how that would work with a linux box,
having a bit
more trouble seeing how I will get it to work with a windows box
(and my
live server is unfortunately a Windows 2003 box), Subversion keeps
running
into file lock issues when I switch from one tag to the other if I
try to
keep the search active. With Lucene 2.1 it even ran into file lock
issues
after I'd disabled the search and was performing the switch. Now,
when
we're
using the Lucene 2.3.2 jar the lock issues has mostly gone (once
in 3
months, instead of every switch/update).
Current code:
disableSearch(request); //Sets the SearchActive boolean to false
Search searcher =
(Search)ctx.getAttribute(FelleskatalogenStartupServlet.SEARCH);
if (searcher != null) {
searcher.clear();
}
String latestTag =
SubversionUtil.getInstance().getLatestTag(getTagUrl(request));
SubversionUtil.getInstance().runSwitch(getRoot(request),
getTagUrl(request) + "/" + latestTag);
if (log.isDebugEnabled()) {
log.debug("Index set to " + getRoot(request) + "/
lucene");
}
ctx.setAttribute(FelleskatalogenStartupServlet.SEARCH, new
Search(getRoot(request) + "/lucene"));
ctx.setAttribute(FelleskatalogenStartupServlet.SEARCHACTIVE,
new Boolean(true));
BR,
Christopher
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 4:27 PM, Michael McCandless <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Why does SubversionUpdate require shutting down the
IndexSearcher? What
goes wrong?
You might want to switch instead to rsync.
A Lucene index is fundamentally write once, so, syncing changes
over
should
simply be copying over new files and removing now-deleted files.
You
won't
be able to remove files held open by the IndexSearcher, but, once
the
IndexSearcher restarts you'd then be able to delete those files
on the
next
sync.
Mike
Christopher Kolstad wrote:
Hi.
Currently using Lucene 2.3.2 in a tomcat webapp. We have an action
configured that performs reindexing on our staging server.
However, our
live
server can not reindex since it does not have the necessary dtd
files to
process the xml.
To update the index on the live server we perform a subversion
update on
the
lucene index directory.
Unfortunately this makes it necessary to stop the IndexSearcher
while
the
SubversionUpdate is doing its thing.
Presently we've had a requirement from our customer to not disable
search.
So my idea was to copy the index directory to another directory
and then
switch the IndexSearcher from the original index directory to the
temporary
directory.
Then perform the Subversion update, and when done, switch the
IndexSearcher
back to the original (now, updated) index directory.
Does anyone have any other suggestions on how to update the index
directory
from subversion without having to disable the IndexSearcher?
BR
Christopher
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