It depends on the order of the filters in your Analyzer. You would want to be sure you put the StopWord filter before the Stemming filter. The reason that the MoreLikeThis class does not do as you want is that first it applies the Analyzer (which stems) and THEN it applies its custom stop word removal. If you pass an Analyzer that removes stop words before stemming, you don't have to worry about the stemming at all. The stopword 'uninteresting' would be removed before the stemming even occurred in the analyzer. The tokens from the analyzer would then be fed to the MoreLikeThis stop word removal scheme...but you could just have that list be empty as its too late anyway...you would have already done your stop word removal with the Analyzer rather than with the MoreLikeThis stop word removal scheme...which can only occur after an Analyzer has been fully applied to the text. Frankly, I don't know why MoreLikeThis supports its own stopword list...you can always do it in a custom analyzer that you pass to MoreLikeThis, which gives you more control of when the stopword removal is applied (say before or after stemming). Sugar I guess.

- Mark

Donna L Gresh wrote:
I wasn't sure this:
Instead add the stopwords to the analyzer that
you pass to MoreLikeThis. That way you can ensure that the analyzer applies the stopword list before stemming

would work, because I don't want to provide all the variants of the stopword list-- if I do this, only the one provided will be removed, correct?


Donna L. Gresh
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IBM T.J. Watson Research Center
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Mark Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 10/15/2007 10:37:22 AM:

Sounds right to me.

The other option I think you have is to not use the MoreLikeThis stopword functionality. Instead add the stopwords to the analyzer that you pass to MoreLikeThis. That way you can ensure that the analyzer applies the stopword list before stemming (The MoreLikeThis stopword removal is implemented so that stopwords are removed after stemming). Then you just have to add 'developer' to the stop list, and you can forget about handling stemmed forms.

Your method should also work though.

- Mark

Donna L Gresh wrote:
Could those "in the know" comment on my current understanding of
stemming
and stopwords using the snowball analyzer?

In my application, I am using the MoreLikeThis class to find similar documents to an input "text blob". There are words in the input text
blob
which are "uninteresting" for my application, so I create a list of
these
words. These words are "uninteresting" no matter what their tense or usage, for example, "develop", "developing", "developed", and
"developer"
are all uninteresting and I do not want them included in the search
query
created by the MoreLikeThis class.

My index documents are stemmed using the Snowball analyzer. I do not
use
any stopwords when the documents are indexed (as I would like the
choice
of stopwords to be under user control at search time).

I would like the user to be able to provide to the search application
a
list of "uninteresting" words, and for obvious reasons would like to
force
them to provide only, say, "developer" and have the application
understand
that all variants should be ignored (and I don't want to force them to
try
to guess what the stemmed version of "developer" is).

My first try was to use MoreLikeThis with the Snowball analyzer and a simple list of unstemmed stopwords (MoreLikeThis.setAnalyzer and MoreLikeThis.setStopWords). However, it appears that the stopwords provided to the MoreLikeThis class are compared in an exact way to the

token stream output by the Snowball filter (where the words have been stemmed), so "developer" will not match anything, and all variants
pass
through. Even if I provide the list of unstemmed stopwords to the
snowball
analyzer instead, they are used "as-is" with no stemming performed, so

"developer" will not remove "developed".
Apparently the following is necessary for my application:
Construct a snowball analyzer with no stopwords. Use the unstemmed stopword list with the analyzer to construct a stemmed version of the
set
of stopwords. Use this set of stemmed stopwords as the stopwords input
to
the MoreLikeThis class (where the tokens are compared to the stemmed versions after been output from the Snowball analyzer).

Is my understanding correct?

Donna


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