On Mar 22, 2007, at 8:16 AM, rubdabadub wrote:
On 3/22/07, Grant Ingersoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Nice idea and I can see the benefit of it to you and I don't mean to
be a wet blanket on it, I just wonder about the legality of it.
People may find it and think it is the official Apache Lucene, since
it is branded that way. I'm not a lawyer, so I don't know for sure.
I think you have the right to store and use the code, even create a
whole other search product based solely on Lucene (I think), I just
don't know about this kind of thing. In some sense it is like
mirroring, but that fact that you can commit w/ out going through the
NO NO!! I don't make any commits to apache trunk. Nor any one else
for that matter. The repo at launchpad is just a pure mirror and will
always be a mirror.
Just to clarify what I meant by commit. Basically you "pull" the
Lucene
branch from launchpad to your local machine and that becomes a
complete copy of the trunk and you make another local branch from
that branch. Example
bzr branch http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/lucene/trunk
local.copy
bzr branch local.copy local.customerx
then you do all your work on local.customerx and make commits
there. Cos you
want to keep the local.copy exactly identical to lanuchpad version
which in turns
a mirror like any other mirror that apache have thats all. If I were
to commit things
to the launchpad version I loose the whole point of mirroring and
getting changes
from trunk.
Gotcha. I guess I just rely on IntelliJ built in versioning to
provide similar capabilities, plus, maybe checking out multiple
copies of the source. Also, I try to avoid making changes in open
source libraries unless absolutely necessary.
Apache process makes me think that others coming upon the code will
be mislead about what's in it. The site _definitely_ makes it look
like Launchpad is the home for Lucene with the intro and the bug
tracking, etc, even though we all know this site will rank further
down in the SERPs than the main site.
I am not a lawyer or branding expert. But if you want me to edit
the description
text with something like "A mirrored copy of Apache Lucene.. original
site at..."
No problem Please provide me the exact text so I can edit it to
avoid confusion
etc.. Last thing I want to do is create confusion.
Moreover if such need like mine exist maybe Apache Infrastructure
should consider
a DRCS system then a RCS system .. SVN doesn't provide the flexibility
that I need.
In apache there is CVS and SVN co-exist as well as there are mirrors
of such all
over the world so.. why not have a bzr branch? if Launchpad want to
host it great
if other mirror wants to host it great.
I hope it clarifies misunderstanding.. Please do provide an exact text
so we don't
get into some lawyer trouble :-) I don't want to take a stab on the
text its better you
provide me exact instructions.
I'll wait for some of the others that are closer to the Foundation to
contribute (maybe one of the PMC members). Like I said, I don't know
if it is an issue at all. I just don't want people to be confused
about it. I think you could propose a DRCS to infrastructure and
make a case for it. Personally, I'm fine with SVN, but then again I
used to think I was fine with CVS and I don't think I would want to
go back to that!
I am curious, how many custom changes are you making to the code that
this is even an issue? Perhaps submitting patches and working to get
them committed would be a more efficient strategy.
-Grant
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