On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 09:36:26 -0500
 "David Ezell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Well, one person's 4 is another person's 3.

We're stuck on 1.3 for the foreseeable future.

So -1 to drop 1.3.

I partially agree with this.  There's no reason 1.3 needs to be dropped for the current 2.x.x codebase.  Why not maintain 2.x.x at 1.3 and move on to 3.x development which would be 1.5+ (or even 1.6+).  Xerces2 is very stable.  1.3 and 1.4 users can continue to depend on it.  I maintain the XMLC project, which is currently limited to JDK 1.3 anway.  If critical issues are found in Xerces2, they can be fixed on the Xerces2 branch where 1.3 and 1.4 users can benefit.  Of course, we can also expect that 1.3 and 1.4 users are in maintenance mode and won't require fancy new features.  All new feature development can take place on the trunk, which will represent the Xerces3 codebase, and will be able to take advantage of all the latest JDK features.  Who knows, maybe Sun can eventually drop the com.sun.apache.xerces stuff and migrate back to the original, stable, Xerces product once it is not limited by old VM's.

Jake


David Ezell
VeriFone
Chair, XML Schema WG

-----Original Message-----
From: Schmidlin, Franck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 5:35 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; j-users@xerces.apache.org
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Subject: RE: Dropping JDK 1.2 support for Xerces-J (and possibly JDK 1.3? 1.4? in the future)

 > a new infusion of activity and interest.

you betcha, most of us would be up in arms!

I personally am stuck on 1.4.2 for the foreseeable future.

So +1 to drop 1.2/3 support, but let's not get too drastic please.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nathan Beyer
Sent: 11 November 2008 02:25
To: j-users@xerces.apache.org
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Subject: Re: Dropping JDK 1.2 support for Xerces-J (and possibly JDK 1.3? 1.4? in the future)

+1

I'd suggest just jumping to Java 5 library, source and target compilation. I think this would give the project a new infusion of activity and interest.

-Nathan

On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 9:51 PM, Michael Glavassevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> (including [EMAIL PROTECTED] on the cc list to hopefully reach a > wider
> audience)
>
> I would like to propose that we officially drop support for JDK 1.2 in

> the next release of Xerces-J. Though the documentation [1] states that

> Xerces supports JDK 1.2 it has been years since we have built or > tested binaries with this level. All of the recent releases were built

> and tested with JDK 1.3. It was brought to my attention that the code > [2] since at least 2006 has had a dependency on APIs introduced in JDK

> 1.3. So we inadvertently moved on awhile ago. It seems this has not > been a practical issue for most users since we've received no posts on

> these lists about it and received no other bug reports. It's not clear

> that there would be much benefit in restoring JDK 1.2 compatibility at

> this point. It's been out of service for years and looking around > Apache it seems most projects run on JDK 1.4 or higher with some of
the stragglers [3][4] below that moving up soon.
>
> If you have serious concerns regarding Xerces abandoning JDK 1.2 > support please send an email to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing > list, specifying why you can't use a higher level of JDK and what > parser features you are using.
>
> While on the subject I wonder what the community would think of us > eventually dropping support for JDK 1.3 and possibly 1.4. There were > features introduced in JDK 1.4 and 5 which Xerces could benefit from
(e.g.
> NIO, java.lang.CharSequence, exception chaining, > java.lang.StringBuilder, java.util.concurrent.*, etc...). That's not > something I'm proposing today (or thinking of proposing for awhile) > but would like to hear feedback from users (please send to > [EMAIL PROTECTED]) who may still need new versions of Xerces > which run on JDK 1.3 and 1.4. It would also be nice hear from folks > who've long since moved on to Java 5 and beyond and would like to see
Xerces take advantage of JDK 1.4 and 5 features.
>
> Thanks.
>
> [1] http://xerces.apache.org/xerces2-j/faq-general.html#faq-11
> [2] http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/XERCESJ-1297
> [3] http://marc.info/?l=ant-dev&m=122596549809889&w=2
> [4] http://marc.info/?l=fop-user&m=119244442600564&w=2
>
> Michael Glavassevich
> XML Parser Development
> IBM Toronto Lab
> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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