Already talked about that with the Xalan folks. At the time they didn't 
think it had the critical mass (i.e. too few committers) to survive as a 
separate subproject.

Michael Glavassevich
XML Parser Development
IBM Toronto Lab
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"Eric J. Schwarzenbach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 
02/09/2007 12:33:30 PM:

> This sounds like kind of a circular project dependency... Shouldn't this
> be eliminated, perhaps by serializer moving to commons or some such?
> 
> Michael Glavassevich wrote:
> > Nathan,
> >
> > I'm not sure what Maven users expect the repository layout to look 
like 
> > but the second option sounds like it could confuse folks. IMHO, this 
jar 
> > really belongs amongst the Xalan artifacts.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Michael Glavassevich
> > XML Parser Development
> > IBM Toronto Lab
> > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02/07/2007 11:53:40 PM:
> >
> > 
> >> Assuming the serializer.jar is an important dependency for Xerces
> >> functionality, then I'd say that's up to the Xerces team.
> >>
> >> There are basically two options -
> >> * Wait for the next Xalan release, upload that under the 'xalan' 
group
> >> ID and link Xerces to that serializer.jar in the as a dependency.
> >> * Upload the serializer.jar now from Xerces package under the 
'xerces'
> >> group ID and link to that as a dependency.
> >>
> >> -Nathan
> >>
> >> On 2/7/07, Michael Glavassevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02/07/2007 10:41:52 PM:
> >>>
> >>> 
> >>>> Sorry. I did get busy.
> >>>>
> >>>> The Maven group has a new, more simple means of uploading stuff to 
> >>>> 
> > the
> > 
> >>>> central repo now, so I started looking at this again the other day,
> >>>> but I ran into a question that I was trying to track down and just 
> >>>> 
> > now
> > 
> >>>> gave up.
> >>>>
> >>>> The oddity is that the Xerces 2.9.0 contains a 'serializer.jar' 
that
> >>>> I'd need to upload first, but the JAR's manifest says that it's
> >>>> version 2.7.1 [1]. I assume this refers to the Xalan project, so I
> >>>> looked there to get the "canonical" version of the JAR, but Xalan
> >>>> currently only has a 2.7.0 release [2] and I verified that the
> >>>> serializer.jar in the Xalan package states that it's 2.7.0.
> >>>>
> >>>> How did Xerces get this JAR? Is there going to be another Xalan 
> >>>> 
> > release
> > 
> >>> soon?
> >>>
> >>> The Xalan developers built it for us after they froze their code. 
> >>> 
> > Xerces
> > 
> >>> 2.9.0 was timed to coincide with Xalan 2.7.1. It was supposed to 
> >>> 
> > happen a
> > 
> >>> few days apart to mitigate the chicken and egg problem we had. Xalan
> >>> needed a new Xerces release in order to enable the new DOM L3 
> >>> 
> > serializer
> > 
> >>> in their release. The new Xerces release needed the DOM L3 
serializer 
> >>> 
> > from
> > 
> >>> Xalan.
> >>>
> >>> Unfortunately their release got delayed [3] for non-technical 
reasons. 
> >>> 
> > It
> > 
> >>> was tagged back in November but it still hasn't happened yet. I 
> >>> 
> > believe
> > 
> >>> it's supposed to happen soon. If you need to put serializer.jar up 
> >>> 
> > first,
> > 
> >>> you should probably wait for the Xalan release and get the jar from 
> >>> 
> > there.
> > 
> >>>> -Nathan
> >>>>
> >>>> [1] Snippet from manifest of serializer.jar
> >>>> Implementation-Title: org.apache.xml.serializer
> >>>> Implementation-Version: 2.7.1
> >>>>
> >>>> [2] http://www.apache.org/dist/xml/xalan-j/
> >>>> 
> >>> [3] http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xalan-dev&m=116495476400467&w=2
> >>>
> >>> Michael Glavassevich
> >>> XML Parser Development
> >>> IBM Toronto Lab
> >>> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>
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