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Xixu Wang edited comment on KUDU-3452 at 3/30/23 3:43 AM: ---------------------------------------------------------- Thanks very much! [~aserbin] 1. There exists another restriction: (replication_factor + 1) / 2 >= the number of alive tservers implemented in [https://gerrit.cloudera.org/c/19571]. This restriction makes sure that RAFT protocol can always elect a leader tablet replica, so reading and writing data keep available. Therefore, creating a table with 0 tablet servers will not succeed. And If the table is created successfully with majority of replicas, it could be able to write into the newly created table right away. {color:#c1c7d0}BTW, does it make sense to allow creating a table even with 0 tablet servers available in a cluster? Or the use-case assumes the client should be able to write into the newly created table right after it gets OK response for the CreateTable API method?{color} {color:#172b4d}2. Yes, that is what I mean.{color} {color:#c1c7d0}Perhaps, by "the risk is the same" you meant the case when one tablet replica became unavailable after a table has been created in case of cluster with just 3 nodes.{color} {color:#172b4d}3. You mean that the table replication factor can not larger than the total number of tablet servers registered with the catalog manage? I agree. I will implement it in my commit.{color} {color:#c1c7d0}But let's please at least check for the total number of tablet servers registered with the catalog manager{color} was (Author: wangxixu): 1. There exists another restriction: (replication_factor + 1) / 2 >= the number of alive tservers implemented in https://gerrit.cloudera.org/c/19571. This restriction makes sure that RAFT protocol can always elect a leader tablet replica, so reading and writing data keep available. Therefore, creating a table with 0 tablet servers will not succeed. And If the table is created successfully with majority of replicas, it could be able to write into the newly created table right away. {color:#c1c7d0}BTW, does it make sense to allow creating a table even with 0 tablet servers available in a cluster? Or the use-case assumes the client should be able to write into the newly created table right after it gets OK response for the CreateTable API method?{color} {color:#172b4d}2. Yes, that is what I mean.{color} {color:#c1c7d0}Perhaps, by "the risk is the same" you meant the case when one tablet replica became unavailable after a table has been created in case of cluster with just 3 nodes.{color} {color:#172b4d}3. You mean that the table replication factor can not larger than the total number of tablet servers registered with the catalog manage? I agree. I will implement it in my commit.{color} {color:#c1c7d0}But let's please at least check for the total number of tablet servers registered with the catalog manager{color} > Support creating three-replicas table or partition when only 2 tservers > healthy > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Key: KUDU-3452 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KUDU-3452 > Project: Kudu > Issue Type: Improvement > Reporter: Xixu Wang > Priority: Major > > h1. Background > In my case, every day a new Kudu table (called: history_data_table) will be > created to store history data and a new partition for another table (called: > business_data_table) to be ready to store today's data. These tables and > partitions all require 3 replicas. This business logic was implemented by > some Python scripts. My Kudu cluster contains 3 masters and 3 tservers. Flag: > --catalog_manager_check_ts_count_for_create_table is false. > Sometimes, one tserver maybe become unavailable. Table creating task will > retry continuously and always fail until the tserver become healthy again. > See the error: > {color:#ff8b00}E0222 11:10:32.767140 3321 catalog_manager.cc:672] Error > processing pending assignments: Invalid argument: error selecting replicas > for tablet 41dffa9783f14f36a5b6c35e89075c1a, state:0: Not enough tablet > servers are online for table 'test_table'. Need at least 3 replicas, but only > 2 tablet servers are available{color} > {color:#172b4d}As there are no enough replicas, a tablet will never be > created. The state of this tablet is not running. Therefore, read or write > this tablet will fail even if there are 2 tservers can be used to create 2 > replicas.{color} > > An already created tablet can still be on service even if one of its 3 > replicas become unavailable. Why can not create a three-replicas table when > only 2 tservers healthy? > > h1. Design > A new flag: --support_create_tablet_without_enough_healthy_tservers is added. > The original logic keeps the same. When this flag is set true, a > three-replicas tablet can be created successfully and its status is losing > one replica. This tablet can be be read and write normally. > > There are 3 things need to do: > # A tool to cancel the table creating task. > # A tool to show the running table creating task. > # A method to create table without enough healthy tservers -- This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v8.20.10#820010)