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Martijn Visser edited comment on FLINK-27849 at 10/2/26 11:18 AM:
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Status as of October 2026: everything from the 2022 plan is in except
FLINK-33183. Still open around it are FLINK-28737 (the filter case, see
FLINK-22826 and FLINK-35341), FLINK-29967, FLINK-24666 and FLINK-29225, plus
FLINK-40889 FLINK-40890 FLINK-40891 FLINK-40892. The default is still IGNORE, I
will start a discussion on dev@ about that. [~lincoln.86xy] do you still want
to drive this, or should we re-scope the ticket?
was (Author: martijnvisser):
Status as of October 2026: everything from the 2022 plan is in except
FLINK-33183. Still open around it are FLINK-28737 (the filter case, see
FLINK-22826 and FLINK-35341), FLINK-29967, FLINK-24666 and FLINK-29225, plus
<A1> to <A6>. The default is still IGNORE, I will start a discussion on dev@
about that. [~lincoln.86xy] do you still want to drive this, or should we
re-scope the ticket?
> Harden correctness for non-deterministic updates present in the changelog
> pipeline
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> Key: FLINK-27849
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-27849
> Project: Flink
> Issue Type: Bug
> Components: Table SQL / Runtime
> Affects Versions: 2.1.0
> Reporter: lincoln lee
> Assignee: lincoln lee
> Priority: Major
> Fix For: 2.4.0
>
>
> There commonly exists updates(which means not only RowKind.INSERT messages)
> in a streaming pipeline, then wrong results or error may occurs when use some
> non-deterministic functions or operations.
> It is a long lived issue since the first day that flink sql was available in
> streaming, but it still not totally be eliminated though some efforts have
> been taken.
> We should detect all the non-deterministic operations in the changelog
> pipelines, raise an error to tell users the risk and also add an mechanism
> that can process such a issue if a user is willing to pay some cost(probably
> introduce the state).
> All non-deterministic operations include builtin temporal functions(now,
> current_timestamp...), UUID, RAND...
> or user defined non-deterministic functions (override isDeterministic return
> false)
> or a lookup join on a lookup source which data may change over time
> or a cdc-source with meta data field (described in FLINK-28242)
>
>
> ====== Solution ======
> Will introduce a physical plan checker to validate if there's any
> non-deterministic updates which may cause wrong result, and also a physical
> plan rewriter to eliminate the non determinism generated by lookup join node
> (which we think is commonly used in sql, and hard to solve by users
> themselves).
> For implementation steps, the main changes may include 4 parts:
> # [preparing work] Adds an internal postOptimize method for physical dag
> processing
> # Introduces a `StreamNonDeterministicPlanResolver` to validate if there's
> any non-deterministic updates which may cause wrong result and rewrite lookup
> join node with materialization (to eliminate the non determinism generated by
> lookup join node)
> # Implements a new lookup join operator (sync mode only) with state to
> eliminate the non determinism
> # [optimization] SinkUpsertMaterializer should be aware of the input
> upsertKey if it is not empty
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