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Trystan commented on FLINK-35285: --------------------------------- Thank you both again, that's the aha-moment I needed! It makes sense to not allow such an aggressive skew. Introducing yet another config to tune some "maximum allowable theoretical skew percentage" seems pretty in-the-weeds, too. > Autoscaler key group optimization can interfere with scale-down.max-factor > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Key: FLINK-35285 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-35285 > Project: Flink > Issue Type: Bug > Components: Kubernetes Operator > Reporter: Trystan > Priority: Minor > > When setting a less aggressive scale down limit, the key group optimization > can prevent a vertex from scaling down at all. It will hunt from target > upwards to maxParallelism/2, and will always find currentParallelism again. > > A simple test trying to scale down from a parallelism of 60 with a > scale-down.max-factor of 0.2: > {code:java} > assertEquals(48, JobVertexScaler.scale(60, inputShipStrategies, 360, .8, 8, > 360)); {code} > > It seems reasonable to make a good attempt to spread data across subtasks, > but not at the expense of total deadlock. The problem is that during scale > down it doesn't actually ensure that newParallelism will be < > currentParallelism. The only workaround is to set a scale down factor large > enough such that it finds the next lowest divisor of the maxParallelism. > > Clunky, but something to ensure it can make at least some progress. There is > another test that now fails, but just to illustrate the point: > {code:java} > for (int p = newParallelism; p <= maxParallelism / 2 && p <= upperBound; p++) > { > if ((scaleFactor < 1 && p < currentParallelism) || (scaleFactor > 1 && p > > currentParallelism)) { > if (maxParallelism % p == 0) { > return p; > } > } > } {code} > > Perhaps this is by design and not a bug, but total failure to scale down in > order to keep optimized key groups does not seem ideal. > > Key group optimization block: > [https://github.com/apache/flink-kubernetes-operator/blob/fe3d24e4500d6fcaed55250ccc816546886fd1cf/flink-autoscaler/src/main/java/org/apache/flink/autoscaler/JobVertexScaler.java#L296C1-L303C10] -- This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v8.20.10#820010)