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Peter Vary commented on FLINK-25857: ------------------------------------ If you check the discussion [1] the diamond inheritance of the `Sink.createWriter` method prevents any backward compatible change of the method. One could argue that this is a flawed design. *About the process and the compatibility* [~Weijie Guo]: Here is my understanding of the FLIP process, please correct me, if I am wrong somewhere: - If there is a change which modifies or creates a new API we should create a FLIP to discuss the change [2] - We start the discussion on the mailing list, so everyone who is interested in, could participate [3] - If there is a consensus on the design, we start a voting thread [4] - If the voting is successful, we announce the result and close the FLIP [5] - If during the implementation we found issues we discuss it there - we do not modify the finalised FLIP [6] Maybe it would be good to have an additional step, that when there is a change related to the original design of the FLIP. We should send a letter to the mailing list as well, to notify interested parties who are not following the actual implementation. About the deprecation process, I have been working based on the API compatibility guarantees [7] stated in the docs. Based on the table there a PublicEvolving API should be source and binary compatible for patch releases, but there is no guarantees for minor releases. Maybe the same redesign process happened during the implementation of FLIP-321 [8]? I was not involved there, so I do not have a first hand information. [1] - https://github.com/apache/flink/pull/23555#discussion_r1371740397 [2] - https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/FLIP-371%3A+Provide+initialization+context+for+Committer+creation+in+TwoPhaseCommittingSink [3] - https://lists.apache.org/thread/v3mrspdlrqrzvbwm0lcgr0j4v03dx97c [4] - https://lists.apache.org/thread/4f7w4n3nywk8ygnwlxk39oncl3cntp3n [5] - https://lists.apache.org/thread/jw39s55tzzpdkzmlh0vshmjnfrjg02nr [6] - https://github.com/apache/flink/pull/23555#discussion_r1369177945 [7] - https://nightlies.apache.org/flink/flink-docs-master/docs/ops/upgrading/#api-compatibility-guarantees [8] - https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/FLIP-321%3A+Introduce+an+API+deprecation+process > Add committer metrics to track the status of committables > --------------------------------------------------------- > > Key: FLINK-25857 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-25857 > Project: Flink > Issue Type: Sub-task > Components: Connectors / Common > Reporter: Fabian Paul > Assignee: Peter Vary > Priority: Major > Labels: pull-request-available > Fix For: 1.19.0 > > Attachments: image-2023-10-20-17-23-09-595.png, screenshot-1.png > > > With Sink V2 we can now track the progress of a committable during committing > and show metrics about the committing status. (i.e. failed, retried, > succeeded). -- This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v8.20.10#820010)