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Piotr Nowojski edited comment on FLINK-18808 at 8/13/20, 11:05 AM: ------------------------------------------------------------------- But isn't the whole point of the discussion? The version posted in your PR counts all of the outputs from 3rd level (including {{ChainingOutput}}), and this is not what we want to achieve. Given the following operators in a single task: {noformat} /-> SideOutput1 A -> B -> C -> NetworkOutput \-> SideOutput2 {noformat} (sorry my diagrams are not as nice as yours ;) ) For the task level {{numRecordsOut}} (aka number of records produced by the task) we want to report the number of records that reached {{SideOutput1 + SideOutput2 + NetworkOutput}}. That's the number of records produced by this task. Currently we are ignoring side outputs of {{B}}, while your outstanding PR would incorrectly account for {{ChainingOutput B->C}}. For the hypothetical {{numRecordsSent}} (would be nice to have, but not must have), we could report the number of records that were sent by {{SideOutput1 + SideOutput2 + NetworkOutput}} (taking into account that broadcasting multiplies the number of records). For the operator level {{numRecordsOut}} we currently have (that should stay unchanged): * Operator A: number of records that reached {{ChainingOutput A->B}} * Operator B: {{SideOutput1 + SideOutput2}} + number of records that reached {{ChainingOutput B->C}} * Operator C: number of records that reached {{NetworkInput}} was (Author: pnowojski): But isn't the whole point of the discussion? The version posted in your PR counts all of the outputs from 3rd level (including {{ChainingOutput}}), and this is not what we want to achieve. Given the following operators in a single task: {noformat} /-> SideOutput1 A -> B -> C -> NetworkOutput \-> SideOutput2 {noformat} (sorry my diagrams are not as nice as yours ;) ) For the task level {{numRecordsOut}} (aka number of records produced by the task) we want to report the number of records that reached {{SideOutput1 + SideOutput2 + NetworkOutput}}. That's the number of records produced by this task. Currently we are ignoring side outputs of {{B}}. For the hypothetical {{numRecordsSent}} (would be nice to have, but not must have), we could report the number of records that were sent by {{SideOutput1 + SideOutput2 + NetworkOutput}} (taking into account that broadcasting multiplies the number of records). For the operator level {{numRecordsOut}} we currently have (that should stay unchanged): * Operator A: number of records that reached {{ChainingOutput A->B}} * Operator B: {{SideOutput1 + SideOutput2}} + number of records that reached {{ChainingOutput B->C}} * Operator C: number of records that reached {{NetworkInput}} > Task-level numRecordsOut metric may be underestimated > ----------------------------------------------------- > > Key: FLINK-18808 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-18808 > Project: Flink > Issue Type: Improvement > Components: Runtime / Metrics, Runtime / Task > Affects Versions: 1.11.1 > Reporter: ming li > Assignee: ming li > Priority: Major > Labels: pull-request-available, usability > Attachments: image-2020-08-04-11-28-13-800.png, > image-2020-08-04-11-32-20-678.png, image-2020-08-13-18-36-13-282.png > > > At present, we only register task-level numRecordsOut metric by reusing > operator output record counter at the end of OperatorChain. > {code:java} > if (config.isChainEnd()) { > operatorMetricGroup.getIOMetricGroup().reuseOutputMetricsForTask(); > } > {code} > If we only send data out through the last operator of OperatorChain, there is > no problem with this statistics. But consider the following scenario: > !image-2020-08-04-11-28-13-800.png|width=507,height=174! > In this JobGraph, we not only send data in the last operator, but also send > data in the middle operator of OperatorChain (the map operator just returns > the original value directly). Below is one of our test topology, we can see > that the statistics actually only have half of the total data received by the > downstream. > !image-2020-08-04-11-32-20-678.png|width=648,height=251! > I think the data sent out by the intermediate operator should also be counted > into the numRecordsOut of the Task. But currently we are not reusing > operators output record counters in the intermediate operators, which leads > to our task-level numRecordsOut metric is underestimated (although this has > no effect on the actual operation of the job, it may affect our monitoring). > A simple idea of mine is to modify the condition of reusing operators > output record counter: > {code:java} > if (!config.getNonChainedOutputs(getUserCodeClassloader()).isEmpty()) { > operatorMetricGroup.getIOMetricGroup().reuseOutputMetricsForTask(); > }{code} > In addition, I have another question: If a record is broadcast to all > downstream, should the numRecordsOut counter increase by one or the > downstream number? It seems that currently we are adding one to calculate the > numRecordsOut metric. -- This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v8.3.4#803005)