On Thu, Nov 06, 2014 at 04:32:34PM +1100, Geoff Huston wrote: > Telenor is big in Norway and is now picking up momentum on a deployment: > http://stats.labs.apnic.net/ipv6/AS2119?c=NO&g=&w=10&x=1 Hi Geoff,
https://www.vyncke.org/ipv6status/compare.php?metric=p&countries=be,no shows that over August 2014, Norway rose from roughly 2% to 4%, while Belgium rose from 22% to 29%. But that's percentages, not per capita. Norway's population is roughly 5 million, Belgium's 11 million. So a 2% rise among 5 million people isn't likely to stimulate a 7% rise in a country with more than twice the population. But looking at the APNIC stats from August, they don't show the coordinated EU kick - so now I'm wondering if it's an artifact of Google's measurement technique instead. Two months earlier, in mid-June, the Google graphs for most European countries show an odd semi-outage, and from then, compared to the APNIC numbers, they seem to *undercount* till mid-August, when they all rise together to again be similar to APNIC's. Certainly it's apples and oranges comparing APNIC and Google stats, but this might suggest there wasn't really a rise in IPv6 in mid-August (as measured by Google), but more of a correction to a previous undercounting. Interesting. Regards, Kate > > On 6 Nov 2014, at 2:23 pm, Kate Lance <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hi Éric, > > > > I'm puzzled, not about the recent decline (and now near-recovery) but at the > > odd 'kick' in the stats on Aug 17, mainly for Europe. > > > > Compare Belgium and most of the high-IPv6 EU countries (for clarity I left a > > couple out like FR and CH, but they have small kicks as well): > > https://www.vyncke.org/ipv6status/compare.php?metric=p&countries=be,de,lu,ro,cz,no > > > > - with high-IPv6 non-EU (BE left in for comparison): > > https://www.vyncke.org/ipv6status/compare.php?metric=p&countries=be,us,jp,pe,my > > The US and Peru show small increments too, but certainly not like the EU > > countries. > > > > Looking closely, it appears something increased the measurements in Europe a > > little on 13 Aug, then a lot on 17 Aug. Erik Taraldsen from Telenor Norway > > said they'd been rolling out v6 since summer - but that sounds more gradual > > than a sudden increment in mid-August. Any ideas ...? > > > > Regards, > > Kate > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 06:03:42PM +0000, Eric Vyncke (evyncke) wrote: > >> With the link, it is probably better… still need some caffein > >> > >> [1]https://www.vyncke.org/ipv6status/compare.php?metric=p&countries=be, > >> de,us,lu > >> > >> From: Eric Vyncke <[2][email protected]> > >> Date: jeudi 23 octobre 2014 09:38 > >> To: "[3][email protected]" <[4][email protected]> > >> Subject: Google IPv6 measurements in Europe appear heading down... > >> > >> For a couple of weeks, it seems that Google IPv6 measurements are > >> heading down mainly for Europe. For example, here is a link to a > >> presentation of the Google measurements for several European countries > >> and USA. There is a clear drop in the last days/weeks for European > >> countries but not for USA. > >> This includes a big drop for my country (BE) :-O and I have checked > >> with all Belgian ISP and they have no explanation as for them 'business > >> as usual'. Apnic also does not show such a big drop. > >> So, I am guessing either a 'bug' in Google measurements infrastructure > >> in Europe or could it be that the IPv6 latency to Google has increased > >> a lot so that Happy Eyeball prefers IPv4? Recent measurement of > >> dual-stack latency to www.google.com from several Belgian ISP gave 10% > >> slower over IPv6. > >> Any clue will be welcome > >> -éric > >> > >> References > >> > >> 1. > >> https://www.vyncke.org/ipv6status/compare.php?metric=p&countries=be,de,us,lu > >> 2. mailto:[email protected] > >> 3. mailto:[email protected] > >> 4. mailto:[email protected]
