Composite ML-DSA is already discussed in
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hu-ipsecme-pqt-hybrid-auth/

-Tiru

On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 at 07:07, Wang Guilin <Wang.Guilin=
40huawei....@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

> Hi, Scott,
>
> Both of new drafts are in datatracker (submitted before the deadline).
> Guess URLs too long and got broken in previous email.
>
> Here is the complete info:
>
> Composite ML-DSA Authentication in the IKEv2
> draft-wang-ipsecme-composite-mldsa-auth-ikev2-00
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-wang-ipsecme-composite-mldsa-auth-ikev2/
>
>
> KEM based Authentication for the IKEv2 with Post-quantum Security
> draft-wang-ipsecme-kem-auth-ikev2-00
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-wang-ipsecme-kem-auth-ikev2/
>
> Cheers,
>
> Guilin
>
> *From:*Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer) <sfluhrer=40cisco....@dmarc.ietf.org>
> *To:*Wang Guilin <wang.gui...@huawei.com>;ipsec <ipsec@ietf.org>
> *Cc:*Wang Guilin <wang.gui...@huawei.com>
> *Date:*2025-03-07 22:56:14
> *Subject:*RE: [IPSec] FW: New Version Notification for
> draft-wang-ipsecme-composite-mldsa-auth-ikev2-00.txt
>
> I don't see the new draft in datatracker.
>
> Did you try to submit it after the quiet period started? If so, we should
> see it when the quiet period ends (on the 15th)
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Wang Guilin <Wang.Guilin=40huawei....@dmarc.ietf.org>
> > Sent: Friday, March 7, 2025 8:32 AM
> > To: ipsec@ietf.org
> > Cc: Wang Guilin <wang.gui...@huawei.com>
> > Subject: [IPsec] [IPSec] FW: New Version Notification for
> draft-wang-ipsecme-
> > composite-mldsa-auth-ikev2-00.txt
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I have submitted another new draft, called Composite ML-DSA
> Authentication
> > in the IKEv2.
> >
> > The basic idea is to collectively introduce a category of hybrid
> signatures in
> > the IKEv2, by following the 27 variants of composite ML-DSA signatured
> > specified in [draft-ietf-lamps-pq-composite-sigs]. Again, this is also
> achieve by
> > employing the SUPPORTED_AUTH_METHODS Notify defined in RFC 9539, via
> > adding a new value (15) (TBD) for composite ML-DSA Authentication, as the
> > authentication method in the " IKEv2 Authentication Method" registry,
> > maintained by IANA.
> >
> > It seems better to not directly defining separate authentication methods
> for
> > all these composite ML-DSA, I think. In this way, the " IKEv2
> Authentication
> > Method" registry looks simpler and all of these concrete algorithms will
> > belong to the same category of authentication method. This may help
> > authentication negation in the IKEv2 as well.
> >
> > [draft-ietf-lamps-pq-composite-sigs]
> > M. Ounsworth, M., Gray, J., Pala, M., J. Klaussner, J., and S. S. Fluhrer
> > Composite ML-DSA For use in X.509 Public Key Infrastructure and CMS
> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lamps-pq-composite-sigs/.
> >
> > Welcome to comment!
> >
> > Guilin
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: internet-dra...@ietf.org <internet-dra...@ietf.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, 4 March 2025 6:40 am
> > To: Wang Guilin <wang.gui...@huawei.com>; Wang Guilin
> > <wang.gui...@huawei.com>
> > Subject: New Version Notification for draft-wang-ipsecme-composite-mldsa-
> > auth-ikev2-00.txt
> >
> > A new version of Internet-Draft
> > draft-wang-ipsecme-composite-mldsa-auth-ikev2-00.txt has been
> successfully
> > submitted by Guilin Wang and posted to the IETF repository.
> >
> > Name:     draft-wang-ipsecme-composite-mldsa-auth-ikev2
> > Revision: 00
> > Title:    Composite ML-DSA Authentication in the IKEv2
> > Date:     2025-03-03
> > Group:    Individual Submission
> > Pages:    12
> > URL:      https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-wang-ipsecme-composite-
> > mldsa-auth-ikev2-00.txt
> > Status:   https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-wang-ipsecme-composite-
> > mldsa-auth-ikev2/
> > HTML:     https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-wang-ipsecme-composite-
> > mldsa-auth-ikev2-00.html
> > HTMLized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-wang-ipsecme-
> > composite-mldsa-auth-ikev2
> >
> >
> > Abstract:
> >
> >    This draft specifies composite ML-DSA authentication in the Internet
> >    Key Exchange Protocol Version 2 (IKEv2) [RFC7296]. Namely, the
> >    authenticaiton in the IKEv2 is completed by using a compiste
> >    signature of ML-DSA [FIPS203], the newly post-quantum digital
> >    singature standard, and one of the following traditional singature
> >    algorithms, SA-PKCS#1v1.5, RSA-PSS, ECDSA, Ed25519, and Ed448. These
> >    concrete composite algorithm specifications follow [OGPKF24].
> >    Composite ML-DSA authenticatio is achieved by asking to add a new
> >    value in the "IKEv2 Authentication Method" registry [IANA-IKEv2],
> >    mantained by IANA. After that, two peers MUST send the
> >    SUPPORTED_AUTH_METHODS Notify, defined in [RFC9593], to negotiate the
> >    specific composite ML-DSA algoithms.
> >
> >    [EDNOTE: Code points for composite ML-DSA authentication may need to
> >    be assigned in the "IKEv2 Authentication Method" registry, maintained
> >    by IANA]
> >
> >
> >
> > The IETF Secretariat
> >
> >
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