Dear Guilin,

I really appreciate the intention to use FrodoKEM in IKEv2. However, I do not 
understand why the draft describes the combination of FrodoKEM and ML-KEM 
instead of just FrodoKEM. I think draft-kampanakis-ml-kem-ikev2 gives us all 
necessary information how to use ML-KEM in IKEv2. In my opinion, an analogue 
draft describing the use of FrodoKEM in IKEv2 including assignment of IDs would 
be very helpful. I do not see the need to describe combinations of KEMs. If we 
do this, we will soon have large number of drafts describing every possible 
combination of KEMs. 

Best regards,
Leonie

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Wang Guilin <Wang.Guilin=40huawei....@dmarc.ietf.org>
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 8. Mai 2024 13:52
> An: ipsec@ietf.org
> Cc: Wang Guilin <wang.gui...@huawei.com>
> Betreff: [IPsec] FW: New Version Notification for draft-wang-hybrid-kem-
> ikev2-frodo-01.txt
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> Here is my first draft for IETF. Your kind comments and suggestions are
> welcome!
> 
> Also,  it will be great to know if anyone may be interested in working
> together on this draft.
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Guilin
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Wednesday, 8 May 2024 7:45 pm
> To: Wang Guilin <wang.gui...@huawei.com>; Wang Guilin
> <wang.gui...@huawei.com>
> Subject: New Version Notification for draft-wang-hybrid-kem-ikev2-frodo-
> 01.txt
> 
> A new version of Internet-Draft draft-wang-hybrid-kem-ikev2-frodo-01.txt
> has been successfully submitted by Guilin Wang and posted to the IETF
> repository.
> 
> Name:     draft-wang-hybrid-kem-ikev2-frodo
> Revision: 01
> Title:    Post-quantum Hybrid Key Exchange in the IKEv2 with ECDH, ML-KEM,
> and FrodoKEM
> Date:     2024-05-08
> Group:    Individual Submission
> Pages:    10
> URL:      https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-wang-hybrid-kem-ikev2-
> frodo-01.txt
> Status:   https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-wang-hybrid-kem-ikev2-
> frodo/
> HTML:     https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-wang-hybrid-kem-ikev2-
> frodo-01.html
> HTMLized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-wang-hybrid-kem-
> ikev2-frodo
> Diff:     https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-wang-hybrid-kem-
> ikev2-frodo-01
> 
> Abstract:
> 
>    RFC 9370 specifies a framework that supports mulitple key
>    encapsulation mechanisms (KEMs) in the Internet Key Exchange Protocol
>    Version 2 (IKEv2) by allowing up to 7 layers of additiona KEMs
>    employed with the oringal ECDH to derive the final shared secret keys
>    for IPsec protocols.  The primitive goal is to mitigate the security
>    threat against quantum computers by hybriding additional post-quantum
>    (PQ) KEMs with the orinigal ECDH key exchange.  This draft describes
>    concretely how two specific QP KEMs, namely, ML-KEM and FrodoKEM, can
>    be instantiated in the IKEv2 as the additional KEMs with the main
>    ECDH to achieve hybrid key agreement.
> 
>    [EDNOTE: IANA KE code points for FrodoKEM may need to be assigned,
>    when considering the code points for ML-KEM has been considered in
>    [I-D.D24]. ]
> 
> 
> 
> The IETF Secretariat
> 
> 
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