> On Aug 25, 2022, at 01:17, Christian Hopps <cho...@chopps.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 25, 2022, at 00:52, Erik Kline <ek.i...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> <snip>
>> 
>>> I.e., either this document needs to formally update RFC 4303 by allowing any
>>> number or another IP protocol number must be requested to the IANA.
>> 
>> As I pointed out in my previous email that is not the case.
>> 
>> The RFC4303 ESP has a Next Header field which contains indicates what
>> type of packet is inside the ESP packet. It typically contains IP
>> Protocol Numbers, but not always. Thats why the RFC4303 above says
>> "chosen from the set of IP Protocol Numbers".
>> 
>> I disagree.  4303 S2.6 is very clearly talking about the Protocol Numbers 
>> registry (the example of "41 means IPv6" is one of the things that give it 
>> away).
>> 
>> I think this document needs to request a protocol number from IANA.

Of course if the fastest way to clear this discuss, is for you as INT area 
director to approve an IP protocol number allocation -- and this doesn't poison 
pill the document with the rest of the IESG -- then of course we can also take 
an IP protocol number to move the document forward.

Can we poll during the telechat call later today to get assurance that no-one 
else will block the document due to an IP protocol number allocation?

Thanks,
Chris.

> 
> Well of course this isn't the correct route. And that's because there is 
> absolutely no reason to remove 1 of the 256 IP protocol numbers from the 
> internet for IPsec only use.
> 
> This has been understood by everyone in IPsec, as Tero, the IPsec WG chair, 
> has tried to explain.
> 
> IPsec has not been reserving IP protocol numbers since the text you unable to 
> get past was written -- because it makes no sense to. At *most* we need to 
> document that to clear this DISCUSS.
> 
> Thanks,
> Chris.

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