Valery,

How about this:

OLD
   Receive-side operation of IP-TFS does not require any per-SA
   configuration on the receiver; as such, an IP-TFS implementation
   SHOULD support the option of switching to IP-TFS receive-side
   operation on receipt of the first IP-TFS payload.

NEW
   Receive-side operation of IP-TFS does not require any per-SA
   configuration on the receiver; as such, for tunnels created 
   without IKE, an IP-TFS implementation
   SHOULD support the option of switching to IP-TFS receive-side
   operation on receipt of the first IP-TFS payload for tunnels.

I can live with MAY, but would prefer SHOULD.

 

 
Does this work for you?
 
              Yes, with the following addition.
 
   Receive-side operation of IP-TFS does not require any per-SA
   configuration on the receiver; as such, for tunnels created 
   without IKE, an IP-TFS implementation
   SHOULD support the option of switching to IP-TFS receive-side
   operation on receipt of the first IP-TFS payload for tunnels.
   If IKE is used to negotiate using IP-TFS, then such switching
   MUST NOT take place.


              With this addition I don’t mind having SHOULD for ike-less case.
 
              Regards,
              Valery.
              
Lou
 

On 10/13/2020 10:06 AM, Valery Smyslov wrote:

I can live with MAY.

 
OK, but it must be negotiable in any case if you plan to use it with IKE.
Otherwise we'll get black holes.
 

On 10/13/2020 9:16 AM, Valery Smyslov wrote:

If you badly need this feature, then please make it MAY and negotiable,
so that people can ignore it. SHOULD is too strong for it,
leaving it non-negotiable is just unacceptable, IMHO.

 
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