> > It can easily be done with a single notification containing the proposed 
> > features.
> > The responder would send back the notification indicating the features it 
> > agrees to use.
> >
> 
> I have some doubts about calling this "easy". This sounds a lot like the 
> already existing transform mechanism.
> Are there other deployed examples of negotiating the required features of an 
> SA using notifications in parallel
> with the transforms? It seems to me there's a lot of standard text, 
> experience, and deployed code written
> getting the transform negotiation mechanism working correctly. Duplicating 
> this rather than re-using it
> worries me.

A lot of things in IKEv2 is negotiated by using notifications. With regard to 
child SA they are - 
using transport mode, using IPcomp, using WESP, using ROHC. 
IP-TFC looks to me like a natural continuation of this line.

Regards,
Valery.

> Thanks,
> Chris.
> 
> >> After coding this I will say using transforms feels like a very natural 
> >> fit.
> >
> > And notifications is even more natural fit :-)
> >
> 
> 
> > Regards,
> > Valery.
> >
> >> Thanks,
> >> Chris.
> >>
> >>> On Nov 28, 2019, at 8:49 AM, Valery Smyslov <smyslov.i...@gmail.com> 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> 3. I think that using new Transform Type for IP-TFS negotiation is a bad 
> >>> idea.
> >>>  Transforms are best thing when combination of them matters. I don't think
> >>>   that it is the case - negotiation of using IP-TFS is orthogonal to 
> >>> negotiation
> >>>   of algorithms to use. I cannot imagine that one wants to use IPTFS with
> >>>   say AES-GCM and doesn't want to do it with say Chacha+Poly.
> >>>   So I believe it is better to negotiate IPTFS by means of notifications, 
> >>> as it is done
> >>>   with transport mode or WESP. So, a new notification (let call it 
> >>> USE_IPTFS) should be
> >>>   introduced, which will contain data regarding whether congestion control
> >>>   is needed and whether fragmentation is allowed. If the responder 
> >>> supports
> >>>   IPTFS it will return back this notification with the data reflecting 
> >>> its choice
> >>>   of IPTFS features. In this case IPTFS_REQUIREMENTS notification is not 
> >>> needed.
> >>
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