Hi everyone,

There is a DISCUSS position from an IESG member on the ikev2bis document that says:

The Gen-ART Review by Elwyn Davies on 4 May 2010 raised a question
that deserves consideration.  Elwyn said:

s3.3.4: The draft states that the list of mandatory to implement
suites has been removed due to evolution going too fast.  However
there are effectively some mandatory to implement suites; they are
listed in other documents.  There should be a way of finding them
so that users and implmenters can find them easily.

Inclusion of a informative reference seems reasonable.  There could be
warning that the algorithm document is likely to be updated without
a corresponding update to the protocol.  The RFC index will tell the
community when the algorithm document is revised.

The previous WG chose not to put any reference to RFC 4307 into RFC 4306, so this would be a change. Having said that, adding a reference is not much of a change. Proposed wording for 3.3.4 would be:

CURRENT:
   The specification of suites that MUST and SHOULD be supported for
   interoperability has been removed from this document because they are
   likely to change more rapidly than this document evolves.

PROPOSED:
   The specification of suites that MUST and SHOULD be supported for
   interoperability is not included this document because they are
   likely to change more rapidly than this document evolves. At
   the time of publication of this document, [RFC 4307] specifies
   these suites, but note that it might be updated in the future, and
   other RFCs might specify different sets of suites.

RFC 4307 would be listed as a normative reference.

Please note that we are going one better than Elwyn's comment, in adding 4307 as a normative, rather than informational, reference. Is there any objection in the WG to this change?

Thanks,
        Yaron

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