To me it’s pretty obviously the former, although the latter is also true.

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From: ipsec-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ipsec-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Keith 
Welter
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 6:18 PM
To: ipsec@ietf.org
Subject: [IPsec] IETFLC comments for draft-ietf-ipsecme-ikev2bis-08


Section 2.23, paragraph starting: 
"An initiator can use port 4500 for both IKE and ESP, regardless of 
 whether or not there is a NAT, even at the beginning of IKE.". 

What does, "even at the beginning of IKE" mean? 

Does it mean, 
  "even when sending an IKE_SA_INIT request" 
or 
  "even at any point during the initial exchanges"? 

 
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