> ESP isn't a tunnelling protocol... ;)  You meant an ESP SA, right?

Er, yes. :)

> OTOH, what is an ESP clarification doing in IKEv2?

IIRC, there was a request at one point to allow for ESP and UDP-encap ESP 
to be completely interchangeable for any given packet at the discretion of 
the sender.  Several folks, including myself, objected to the broadness of 
that; I vaguely recall you might have even had something to say about this 
in reference to IPv6.  I think this text represented a compromise -- you 
could only send UDP-encap if you had evidence that the peer supported NAT 
traversal (and therefore UDP encapsulation) for this SA.


Scott Moonen (smoo...@us.ibm.com)
z/OS Communications Server TCP/IP Development
http://www.linkedin.com/in/smoonen



From:
Dan McDonald <dan...@sun.com>
To:
ipsec@ietf.org
Date:
01/08/2010 10:22 PM
Subject:
Re: [IPsec] No UDP encapsulation with IKEv2 over port 4500?



On Fri, Jan 08, 2010 at 04:53:25PM -0500, Scott C Moonen wrote:
> Dan, I think the intent of that text was to read "non-UDP encapsulated" 
as 
> "non-UDP encapsulated [ESP]".  I.e., it is not saying you should support 

> both UDP-encapsulation and vanilla UDP on port 4500; it is saying that 
you 
> should support UDP encapsulation for an ESP tunnel even if a NAT was not 

> detected for that tunnel.

ESP isn't a tunnelling protocol... ;)  You meant an ESP SA, right?

OTOH, what is an ESP clarification doing in IKEv2?

> So it might be good to reword it to clarify,

Yes, it definitely would be!  Anyone else who's an actual document editor
agree with Scott and me?

Dan
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