I never said that there are service providers clamouring for WESP. 

You brought up a point about EGP routing protocols, and I just replied to that.

Cheers, Manav 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Harkins [mailto:dhark...@lounge.org] 
> Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 10.42 AM
> To: Bhatia, Manav (Manav)
> Cc: Dan Harkins; Jack Kohn; ipsec@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [IPsec] Traffic Visibility Future
> 
> 
>   I would be very much interested in a real-world example instead
> of hypotheticals. What service provider is asking for WESP?
> 
>   Dan.
> 
> On Thu, January 7, 2010 6:15 pm, Bhatia, Manav (Manav) wrote:
> > Dan,
> >
> > [clipped]
> >
> >>   Because it's unnecessary bloat that another group may 
> not have any
> >> use for. ESP-null could be used, for instance, to protect
> >> packets in an
> >> EGP routing protocol. There is no need for WESP in such an
> >> environment.
> >
> > EGP routing protocols, by definition and design, will 
> traverse multiple
> > autonomous systems, and there could very well be a policy 
> on the edge of
> > one such AS that could deny entry to any traffic that it doesn't
> > recognize.
> >
> > Using WESP will clearly help in such cases.
> >
> > Cheers, Manav
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