Hi Yoav,

These applications are using same IKE SA for allocating IP to the
application specific virtual interfaces, which can be more than one. Let me
know if you further clarification.

Thanks & Regards,
Raj


2009/8/26 Yoav Nir <y...@checkpoint.com>

> Hi Raj.
> The issue is concerned with Config payload in Child SA only. Config in
> INFORMATIONAL will stay, or at least, there is no current proposal to remove
> it.
>
> It can be useful for querying the application version, which is still a
> defined attribute for CP.
>
> Can you elaborate on the cases where the application needs more than 1 IP
> address?
>
> Yoav
>
> On Aug 26, 2009, at 6:08 AM, Raj Singh wrote:
>
> Hi Yaron,
>
> Also, there are use cases when application needs more than 1 IP address for
> internal purpose.
> With current ikev2bis, this is possible as we can request address after
> session establishment using CP[CFG_REQUEST] in  INFORMATIONAL exchange.
> If we say that we want to support in ONLY IKE_AUTH.
> Are we going to stop supporting CP payload via INFORMATION exchange ?
>
> Thanks & Regards,
> Raj
>
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 2:53 AM, Yaron Sheffer <yar...@checkpoint.com>wrote:
>
>>  Yoav:
>>
>>
>> Patricia noted in a post to the IPsec mailing list (12/12/2008) that
>> section 2.19 says that "request for such a temporary address can be included
>> in any request to create a CHILD_SA (including the implicit request in
>> message 3) by including a CP payload."
>>
>> IMO the normal way of doing things is in this message 3, so rather than a
>> parenthetical remark, it's really the only one anyone uses.  I don't think
>> it makes sense to assign a different IP address for each SA, and I don't
>> think anyone actually intended for this to be implied.
>>
>>
>> In RFC 4306, section 3.15, one of the attributes that can be sent in the
>> CP payload is the INTERNAL_ADDRESS_EXPIRY. That would be the length of time
>> before the client needs to renew the address with the gateway (probably
>> renew the lease with a DHCP server). With such an attribute, it made sense
>> for the client to renew the address along with rekeying some CHILD_SA.
>>
>>
>> In the bis document, we've deprecated this attribute, and it is now marked
>> as "RESERVED". Since we've done that, I suggest we remove the CP payload
>> from the Create Child SA exchange in appendix A, and reword section 2.19 to
>> reflect that requesting an IP address is only acceptable during IKE_AUTH.
>>
>>
>>
>> Everyone, please comment on the above, even if you support Yoav’s
>> proposal. This would be a protocol change (even if we don’t understand what
>> the current semantics is…), so we shouldn’t do it unless we’re quite sure.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>             Yaron
>>
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