Thanks Qiu Ying - great observation.

We had originally proposed using a bit from the WESP flags (integrity only) for 
differentiating between ESP-encrypted and ESP-NULL traffic, but changed this to 
using a value of zero in the next header for efficient encoding, although this 
is overloading the meaning of next header.
With your observation, the current definition is not practical so we have the 
following options:


 1.  Revert back to using a bit in the flags to differentiate between encrypted 
/ NULL traffic.
 2.  Allocate a new protocol value for the next header field to indicate 
encrypted data, which seems like an overkill.

As we are already asking for a new protocol value for WESP, option 1 seems to 
be the better choice.

Other opinions?

Thanks,
- Ken

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From: ipsec-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ipsec-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of QIU 
Ying
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 12:37 AM
To: QIU Ying; Yaron Sheffer; ipsec@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [IPsec] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-ipsecme-traffic-visibility-05

Since the zero of next header value is used for HOPOPT already, maybe applying 
a new value for this intention is better to avoid the confliction.

Regards
Qiu Ying

----- Original Message -----
From: QIU Ying<mailto:qiuy...@i2r.a-star.edu.sg>
To: Yaron Sheffer<mailto:yar...@checkpoint.com> ; 
ipsec@ietf.org<mailto:ipsec@ietf.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: [IPsec] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-ipsecme-traffic-visibility-05

Regarding the Next Header in section 2, what will be happened if the value of 
Next Header is zero (i.e. IPv6 Hop-by-Hop option) and the packet is not 
encrypted?

Regards
Qiu Ying

----- Original Message -----
From: Yaron Sheffer<mailto:yar...@checkpoint.com>
To: ipsec@ietf.org<mailto:ipsec@ietf.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 3:48 AM
Subject: [IPsec] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-ipsecme-traffic-visibility-05

This is the beginning of a two-week WG Last Call, which will end July 18. The 
target status for this document is Proposed Standard. The current document is 
at http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ipsecme-traffic-visibility-05.

If you have not read the document before now, please do so. Having fresh eyes 
on the document often brings up important issues. If you HAVE read it before, 
please note that there have been several revisions since San Francisco, so you 
might want to read it again (plus it's a short document). Send any comments to 
the list, even if they are as simple as "I read it and it seems fine".

Please clearly indicate the position of any issue in the Internet Draft, and if 
possible provide alternative text. Please also indicate the nature or severity 
of the error or correction, e.g. major technical, minor technical, nit, so that 
we can quickly judge the extent of problems with the document.

Thanks,
            Yaron
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