Hi Vijay,

On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 3:24 AM, Vijay Devarapalli <vi...@wichorus.com>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On 5/26/09 10:10 PM, "Raj Singh" wrote:
>
> > Hi Vijay,
> >
> > I have some question on ikev2-redirect-10 draft.
> >
> > In section 5,
> > ------
> >     Once the client sends an acknowledgment to the gateway, it SHOULD
> >    delete the existing security associations with the old gateway by
> >    sending an Informational message with a DELETE payload.  The gateway
> >    MAY also decide to delete the security associations without any
> >    signaling from the client, again by sending an Informational message
> >    with a DELETE payload.  However, it should allow sufficient time for
> >    the client to setup the required security associations with the new
> >    security gateway.  This time period should be configurable on the
> >    gateway.
> > -------
> >
> > Suppose after sending N[REDIRECT] in case of Gateway initiated redirect,
> > there is a time gap for client to delete old SA and create new SA with
> > redirected Gateway.
> >
> > During this time, IKE REKEY occurs from gateway or client, what should be
> > the behavior, should it REKEY on old SA or defer the rekey ?
>
> The rekey should be deferred. The IKEv2 SA is going to be torn down anyway.

Can you make a mention of this in the draft ? According to me, we can make
it simple by
saying that after REDIRECT, IKE SA will be marked for deletion i.e. we will
send/accept only DELETE informational exchange on that SA.

>
>
> > Also, when deleting IKE SA, due to redirect, is there any way to know
> that
> > this delete is sue to redirect ?
>
> Well, the gateway redirected the client. If following that, there is a
> delete from the client, the gateway would know that the IKEv2 SA is being
> deleted because it redirected the client.
>
> Anyway, does it matter?
>
It does. There is a time gap between REDIRECT and DELETE for the IKE SA. If
any activity happens during that period due to valid reasons ( REKEY,
DELETION due to lifetime etc.), we will not be sure what to do ? Also, for
administrative purpose we need to know that DELETE happened due to REDIRECT
or valid reasons.
Accepting only DELETE after REDIRECT solves all these problems.

>
> Vijay
>
> Thanks,
Raj
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