> Le 15 nov. 2019 à 16:03, Pierre Joye <pierre....@gmail.com> a écrit :
> 
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019, 3:41 PM Nikita Popov <nikita....@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 5:44 PM Matthieu Napoli <matth...@mnapoli.fr> wrote:
> 
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Following a discussion with Nikita, I understood that [installing PEAR
> > with PHP is deprecated](
> > https://github.com/php/php-src/blob/PHP-7.4/UPGRADING#L98-L101 <
> > https://github.com/php/php-src/blob/PHP-7.4/UPGRADING#L98-L101>).
> > However, installing PEAR is necessary for PECL to work (it uses PEAR).
> >
> > I started having a look at what could be done to use PECL without PEAR.
> > This lead me to the following question: as a first step, would it make
> > sense to provide PECL as a self-contained PHAR?
> > That way users can download the PHAR and avoid install PEAR. Following
> > that we can have a look at trimming the PECL package, but the PHAR would be
> > a first step.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Matthieu
> 
> 
> I think that makes sense. The only thing we really want/need from PEAR is
> the "pecl" command, and having a single self-contained phar for that would
> be much better than requiring a global PEAR installation, and allow us to
> change the underlying implementation more easily in the future.
> 
> 
> Also if there is an interest I can give back some love to Pickle 
> (https://github.com/FriendsOfPHP/pickle) and ensure it works smoothly up to 
> php master or 7.4/7.4+1. The phar releases support pecl.php.net, github or 
> any git/directory install of extensions.
> 
> Best,
> Pierre

Hi Pierre,
I spent some time on Pickle as well. The thing isn't maintained, the tests do 
not pass, I had a hard time doing anything. I still tried to fix most of the 
tests here: https://github.com/FriendsOfPHP/pickle/pull/164 but I didn't manage 
to make the CI green. Removing HHVM support did make the code much cleaner, and 
I think I can help as well but I am afraid that nobody will merge anything. If 
you get the project going again that could be great.
One main thing that could help is listing what's missing. In other words, I 
don't know what to do.
If Pickle works already and just need a green test suite and a new version, 
then maybe we can start with that and then advertise it as a viable replacement 
to PEAR?

Matthieu
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