do you think because it's short you'll lose your virginity. I am sorry about the vulgarity; but your stand is stand is ridiculous.
On Sat, Oct 5, 2019 at 4:04 PM Olumide Samson <oludons...@gmail.com> wrote: > I think something that deals with system commands should be highly obvious > and should not be allowed through shortcut syntax that made it easy to be > hidden amongst codes for many security reasons. > > There's already a popular way without hidden syntax and which speaks of > itself in a verifiable way called "exec", I'm not saying we should have it > removed just because it isn't obviously popular or it doesn't affect > anything for now; my argument is since we are moving to Version 8 of PHP, > it should be deprecated for exec usage since they both do same thing and > exec is highly obvious as a command function. > > This isn't high cost breaking changes coz it has a verifiable, ready > alternative to upgrade to without huge Regex searches. > > Thanks, > Samson. > > On Sat, Oct 5, 2019, 9:26 PM Andreas Hennings <andr...@dqxtech.net> wrote: > > > The first time I saw the backtick operator in code, I thought it must > > be some kind of ancient alternative syntax for string literals. > > (and no, I did not know that these are called "backticks") > > > > When I learned that code "quoted" in this way is immediately executed > > as shell commands, this seemed like a completely insane and reckless > > language design. > > > > In most projects, executing shell commands should be something rare, > > and the few cases where it happens should be visible and searchable. > > > > Perhaps a legitimate use case would be a file that is essentially a > > shell script with some PHP sprinkled in. > > > > But overall I think we should rather get rid of this feature. > > > > > > On Sat, 5 Oct 2019 at 22:02, Lynn <kja...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi! > > > > > > > > > This is true, if you know they are called a backtick. It's not a > > > > > > > > I think it's reasonable to expect some minimal level of knowledge > from > > > > the user. We're not targeting infants in the kindergarten here. So > > while > > > > we aim to not present too many obstacles to the novice user, we can > > > > reasonably expect from them at least basic middle-school level > > knowledge > > > > and abilities - and occasional read of the documentation never killed > > > > anybody either. > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I didn't know the name of this character until several years after I > > > started PHP, and I only found out because a colleague pointed it out to > > me. > > > I don't think it's a good idea to assume people know the name of this > > > operator or known how to find it easily. Googling is a skill on its own > > > that not everyone masters, as much as I'd like to see this in our > field. > > I > > > also don't see how school knowledge is important here, especially as I > > went > > > to school and I did not learn about it there. Besides of this, there > are > > > also keyboard( layout)s that don't have a backtick character present. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Lynn van der Berg > > > > -- > > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > > > >
