On Mon, Jul 29, 2019, 10:55 PM Zeev Suraski <z...@zend.com> wrote: > > > > I'm sorry Stas, but I will not be reading your mails in the future. I > think you mean > > well and do raise legitimate points, but I have noticed over a long > period of time > > that I find arguing with you to be extremely mentally exhaustive, while > > ultimately deriving very little actionable benefit from these > discussions. You just > > rub me entirely the wrong way. That's ultimately my own personal issue, > but I > > don't think I can avoid acting on it any longer. I hope your position is > sufficiently > > well-represented by other people. > > > Nikita, > > I'm sorry, but that is completely unacceptable. I'm another person with > whom you used this approach in practice (and said as much, twice), even if > you didn't go quite as far as saying that it will be your ongoing policy > (and ignored my feedback on this). While disregarding a person's opinion > (especially one that's a core contributor) is unacceptable by itself - it's > even worse since claiming that "others will represent the position" is > playing make-belief. The reality (based on track record) is that you very > much tend to simply ignore strong & well-reasoned opposition to your > proposals. This has no place on internals. > > If you can't thoroughly discuss the merits and issues of your proposals, > don't propose. Better yet - if you think that a proposal coming from you > is likely to result in a discussion that will mentally exhaust you - don't > propose it. It probably means it's far outside consensus and has no place > in PHP. > > Regards, > > Zeev >
Both Zeev and Stas have long histories of poor behaviour, so for Zeev to call out Nikita for choosing to ignore Stas is... funny. I think ignoring people is totally acceptable behaviour on this list. May I remind you that in the not distant past this list was called a toxic kindergarten and other similar names by former and current contributors? Simce we have little policy on ejecting toxic contributors, ignoring people is the only way to keep sanity. > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >
