> On 7 May 2019, at 19:47, Steven Wade <stevenwad...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Maybe I’m missing the point (I’ve never used it) of VarDumper, but isn’t 
>> this type of thing exactly why the `__debugInfo` magic method exists?
> 
> 
> I can't speak for the exact reason a library like VarDumper is using casting 
> versus __debugInfo, but in trying to find a substitute this morning, I played 
> with the method you mentioned and found that it can be overwritten by classes 
> and be commanded to not return anything (similar to my __toArray proposal), 
> whereas current functionality prevents overriding casting to an array so 
> casting will always give you insight but users can overwrite __debugInfo and 
> cause unintended effects. I assume that's the reason for not using 
> __debugInfo.
> 
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> Steven Wade
> stevenwad...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 

Right, I understand that it *can* be overridden, but surely if someone’s doing 
that, its because they want more useful information provided in, e.g. var_dump.
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