Hello and thanks for the RFC.
I think the Eligible Voters Section is too complex to be
addressed/bundled in this RFC. I think it deserves another RFC.
Most discussions here are rightfully about this section. To add my opinion:
* I don't understand the special treatment for PHP-FIG. This group
first intent was to reflect the “major implementors point of view”
in order to make common agreements/standards about some practises.
Based on that, yes it makes sense to include PHP-FIG into the
Eligible Voters group. However, some projects have decided to step
away from PHP-FIG for various reasons I won't list here (I can
mention sabre.io or hoa-project.net because I was/am involved in
those projects). Thus, they are excluding themselves from the
Eligible Voters group? It doesn't make sense, and it does not sound
very democratic :-).
* Some people don't contribute to the php-src repository (like
myself), but create extensions, participate to the ecosystem, or
push PHP further. As an example not related to myself, I think of
PHPStan or Doctrine, both projects are important PHP projects, with
an extreme usage of PHP features as a language, and their authors
are in a good position to give feedbacks on PHP RFC, or to write
ones. The metrics that are currently listed in the RFC to be an
Eligible Voter entirely exclude this population. If this population
is excluded, I'm afraid that the PHP future will defer from the real
usages/expectations of the language.
* I don't understand why keeping existing voters is an issue, it's not
motivated, and consequently I can only disagree with the
grandfathering section.
The rest of the RFC is very interesting. It would be sad to miss it
because of the Eligible Voters Section. I suggest to split it into 2 RFC.
Regards.
On 31.01.19 14:44, Zeev Suraski wrote:
Without further ado, an RFC that’s attempting to comprehensively solve many of
the issues that have plagued our RFC process since it was hastily introduced in
2011:
https://wiki.php.net/rfc/voting2019
Emphasis on ‘attempting’. I’m sure there are still a lot of holes in it that
should be plugged before we vote on it, but instead of waiting indefinitely –
I’d like us to start discussing it.
Comments and suggestions welcome.
Zeev
