Hi Zeev

Den tor. 31. jan. 2019 kl. 15.44 skrev Zeev Suraski <z...@php.net>:
>
> Without further ado, an RFC that’s attempting to comprehensively solve many 
> of the issues that have plagued our RFC process since it was hastily 
> introduced in 2011:
>
>
>
> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/voting2019

I wholeheartedly disagree with the PHP-FIG special exception to who
can vote, call me biased but I do not believe it serves any purpose
and is absurd. People who actively work on PHP, should be the ones to
be able to have a choice, I think that should be reserved for any
contributor who puts effort working on PHP.

I do understand that we are the language and our work affects the
others the most. However making special exceptions for who can vote
and essentially having a say from an external source in what I in
theory need to help maintain as a PHP Core Developer is terrible. Why
not allow WordPress Core Developers to have a say instead, as their
work has a larger impact on the usage of PHP? (That was obviously a
bit of sarcasm, the last part). We are not allowed to vote at their
individual projects features (nor do we need to have a say if we are
not actively involved in the development of said projects or
organizations) and I stand very strongly behind that belief.

Besides this, it also creates uncertainty about who elects such, and
simply should be dropped from the voting RFC as it was already fairly
unclear from the original one.

The contributors appendix also lists ChangeLog, SVN Migration etc,
something to keep in mind if this RFC is moved forward to filter the
list.


Do I understand the PHP Packaging Decisions right that it requires to
vote for a timeline for each version? I remember we have different
opinions raised regarding the time to a new major version (should we
have 7.4 vs go to 8.0, same for the 5 to 7 transition back then
regarding a 5.7). This is the only issue I can think of and should be
changed to requiring a vote if there is a dispute in regards to what
the next version should be. As I don't really wanna vote just to vote
for each of the minor versions of 8 once a year when its the most
logical reason to go to 8.1 from 8.0, and so on until we reach the
point where the next major is considerable.


I think changes like the requiring a patch for RFCs is a very welcomed addition.

-- 
regards,

Kalle Sommer Nielsen
ka...@php.net

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