On 17 Jul 2018, at 21:02, Nikita Popov <nikita....@gmail.com<mailto:nikita....@gmail.com>> wrote:
On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 12:10 AM, Zeev Suraski <z...@zend.com<mailto:z...@zend.com>> wrote: > Based on the feedback we received, we have decided to target PHP 7.4 for this > RFC. A main factor for this decision was that the RFC requires some > non-trivial > changes to 3rd-party extensions for full compatibility. This would put the > ongoing (but nearly complete) effort to port extensions to PHP 7.3 back to > square one. As I mentioned beforehand, I think it's good it wasn't rushed into 7.3 and at the same time sorry it's not being targeted for 8.0. > Now that the target version is decided and the last open questions in the RFC > have been resolved, we plan to open voting tomorrow. IMHO one of the key reasons for not putting it into 7.3 was the fact that very little discussion about the actual proposal actually happened because it arrived so late in the 7.3 release cycle. Most of the discussion under the Typed Properties thread actually had to do with whether or not it should go into 7.3, 7.4 or 8.0 - and not about the specifics of the proposal. I skimmed through the thread and found just a handful of responses that dealt with the specific of the proposals - most of them unanswered (unless I'm missing some internals email somehow). With this in mind, I think that now that the meta parts are finalized, we should allow a bit more time for real meaningful discussion about the proposal to happen. I understand that you don't want to delay this to a later time in the 7.4 process, but delaying it by a week or so will allow people to actually review the proposal in more detail without the uncertainty that surrounded it beforehand - and perhaps have their concerns addressed. Given that 7.4's finalization date is a year away, and there are no conflicting RFCs in the queue - a week will not have any sort of negative influence on the proposal, but might have some positive impact on its contents. Zeev Sure, we can wait another week. Unless the additional discussion results in major changes to the RFC, we'll start voting next Monday (2018-07-23). In the interest of avoiding further delays, please try to view this as a hard deadline: If you would like to discuss some aspect of the proposal or raise a concern, please do so now rather than on Monday morning. Much appreciated - thank you! Zeev
