On Friday, December 8, 2017 12:42 PM, "Stephen Rea" < php-li...@koalephant.com> 
wrote:
>> On 8 Dec 2017, at 08:54, "li...@rhsoft.net" <li...@rhsoft.net> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Am 08.12.2017 um 01:38 schrieb Björn Larsson:
>>>> Den 2017-12-06 kl. 20:49, skrev Nikita Popov:
>>>> Hi internals,
>>>> 
>>>> I'd like propose optional support for explicitly marking 
>>>> by-reference argument passing at the call-site, in addition to the 
>>>> declaration-site:
>>>> 
>>>>      https://wiki.php.net/rfc/explicit_send_by_ref
>>>> 
>>>> In short, while currently we have
>>>> 
>>>>      function byRef(&$ref) {...}
>>>>      byRef($var);
>>>> 
>>>> this proposal would also allow
>>>> 
>>>>      function byRef(&$ref) {...}
>>>>      byRef(&$var);
>>>> 
>>>> so that the use of by-reference passing is obvious without having to 
>>>> consult the function declaration.
>>>> 
>>> I think this proposal has a good point about static analysers, not 
>>> just about human readability.
>>> A good static analyser is very helpful for eg migration projects and 
>>> if this proposal benefits that, it's a plus. Also using same syntax 
>>> for references like in other parts of the language has a value.
>>> Now expressing the same thing in two different ways, with or without 
>>> & is confusing, so I think one needs to think about if old syntax 
>>> should be deprecated in 8.0
>> 
>> to get this consistent that would also require change every line of 
>> code calling core functions like sort instead of sort($array) as 
>> sort($array)
>> 
>> i doubt that the benefits could justify the BC break
>> 
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>
>I think Rowan's suggestion makes a lot of sense. There's zero bc break for 
>existing code, but new/updated code can get the benefits of being specific 
>about how the parameter is used.

Agreed, and I think those BC break change will be fine if it targets 8.0. I 
know people always argue that it's stupid to break the working code, but IMHO 
it's ok for a major version update with good reason.




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