On 5/11/2017 4:08 AM, Anatol Belski wrote:
Hi Thomas,

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From: Thomas Hruska [mailto:thru...@cubiclesoft.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 9, 2017 5:33 PM
To: PHP Development <internals@lists.php.net>
Subject: [PHP-DEV] TLS v1.2 -only- deployments

Over the past two weeks, I've observed quite a bit of PHP 7+ userland code
breaking due to remote hosts switching to a TLS 1.2 only policy.
For various specific reasons, I strongly suspect that PCI DSS 3.1 
implementations
or compliance audits against that spec have something to do with the changes
that I'm seeing:

https://blog.pcisecuritystandards.org/migrating-from-ssl-and-early-tls

In just the last two weeks, I've seen completely unrelated servers of various
vendors go offline for an upgrade.  When they come back up a short bit later,
they are suddenly configured for TLS 1.2 only.  Running a Qualys SSL labs test
confirms the changes.  It's a rather specific change to encounter in such a 
short
period of time.

PHP userland code (e.g. stream_socket_client()) is unable to connect to such
hosts via "tls://" host strings.  The string has to be updated to use the 
version-
specific string "tlsv1.2://" before the connecting code starts working again.

What were interesting is to know some exact servers you mention to verify, if 
it were possible to call them by name. In general, probably having some 
reliable stats on the matter were not bad. Particularly with the reason you 
suspect - so if the changes are driven by the payment branch, they probably 
should be respected by both apps and servers. If some server providers do 
changes suddenly, thus breaching customer apps, we need to evaluate the extent 
of the breach. Fe stats linked by the Qualys labs itself tell there are still 
over 90% of of about 140 000 servers supporting TLS 1.0. OFC. Though, there are 
some billions of servers around the globe, so not sure how the stats are 
representative. I think in any case, especially if apps are branch specific, 
explicit TSL 1.2 is probably the best way, like anything explicit in security.

Regards

Anatol

Sorry for the delayed reply.

For NDA reasons, I can't tell you which servers or vendors are involved. All I know is that I saw a bunch of systems across disparate vendors in a very short amount of time switching to TLS 1.2 only, which left me confused and wondering what in the world was going on. Only after someone in a completely unrelated context forwarded me a message they received from Authorize.net did I make a PCI DSS connection - all of the systems that changed are involved with PCI compliance and auditing to various degrees. Authorize.net recently publicly announced that they are migrating to TLS 1.2 only and have already switched their sandbox environment over:

https://community.developer.authorize.net/t5/News-and-Announcements/Experiencing-Sandbox-Connection-Issues-TLS-1-2-Is-Now-Required/td-p/57948

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