On 16/11/16 00:06, Guy Marriott wrote:
> I think it would make more sense for typed properties to exist first, and
> it so happens that there was a recent RFC for this:
> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/typed-properties. That RFC failed by a very small
> margin.
> 
> I would suggest you read through the discussions on the mailing list
> regarding that RFC for some common arguments to typing in PHP.

It really does feel that it's time for a complete split between the
simplicity that PHP has traditionally provided by NOT requiring
everything is tied down in the straight jacket of 'strict typing' and a
version of PHP that only works for that style of user.

Things like 'function overloading' and 'int $b = 5;' do not simplify
anything if you are using PHP to get away from the 'annoyance' of having
to worry just how '5' was supplied. That it is an integer is only a
small part of verifying if it is actually a valid input and handling
mistakes or even hack attempts are not solved by simply throwing out of
line errors due to a different style of working. Simply adding a range
check on an input keeps the fault in the right place and perhaps allows
'five' to be responded to with a correct response ...

What is STILL needed even if you make PHP only strict is a proper
validation of the data contained in those 'restricted' pots ... and I
include validation that an in variable is 8, 16, 32, 64 and today even
bigger which is where the need for strict typing originated, and
function overload to handle a multiple of fixed variable sizes.

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