On 19.08.2016 at 15:22, Anatol Belski wrote:

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Christoph M. Becker [mailto:cmbecke...@gmx.de]
>> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 1:38 PM
>> To: Anatol Belski <anatol....@belski.net>; php-...@lists.php.net;
>> internals@lists.php.net
>> Subject: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] com php-src: Fix dba configuration for
>> Windows: ext/dba/config.w32
>>
>> On 19.08.2016 at 13:17, Anatol Belski wrote:
>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Christoph Michael Becker [mailto:c...@php.net]
>>>> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 11:42 AM
>>>> To: php-...@lists.php.net
>>>> Subject: [PHP-CVS] com php-src: Fix dba configuration for Windows:
>>>> ext/dba/config.w32
>>>>
>>>> Commit:    ad76e8a529eabf150f17d313bb035b329bc68dec
>>>> Author:    Christoph M. Becker <cmbecke...@gmx.de>         Fri, 19 Aug 2016
>>>> 11:42:16 +0200
>>>> Parents:   bc1214f25e7c9525336b34e09aec1f1db82b9894
>>>> Branches:  PHP-5.6 PHP-7.0 PHP-7.1 master
>>>>
>>>> Link:       http://git.php.net/?p=php-
>>>> src.git;a=commitdiff;h=ad76e8a529eabf150f17d313bb035b329bc68dec
>>>>
>>>> Log:
>>>> Fix dba configuration for Windows
>>>>
>>>> To be able to build the dba extension on Windows, libdb was required.
>>>> This is contrary to *nix where each handler can be configured
>>>> individually. To avoid BC breaks, we only do minimal modifications,
>>>> instead of adjusting the Windows configuration to match the *nix
>>>> configuration, for now.
>>>
>>> I'm not sure it's ok to suddenly change this for stable branches, and even 
>>> not
>> sure with 7.1. Effectively no builds for this were provided since 5.3, if I 
>> don't err.
>>
>> Yes, you're right.
>>
>>> So from the QA perspective, it's quite a risky move.
>>> It should go by master, so we have time to catch up with bugs, deps and 
>>> users
>>> to start testing and using it again.
>>
>> This appears to be a chicken-and-egg problem.  Currently, there are several
>> known issues wrt. to the flatfile and inifile drivers on Windows.  These 
>> drivers
>> will be enabled as soon as libdb3.1s (or
>> libdb6.1 as of PHP 7.0.0) are available.  Users may than experience these 
>> issues.
>
>> However, it is not possible to test (and debug) with dba, if the libs are not
>> available (unless one modifies config.w32), and it may be hard to get the
>> respective libdb binaries.  There may, however, dba_php.dlls available from
>> third-party sites.
>>
>> Anyhow, if you still think the commit should only go to master, I can revert 
>> the
>> changes.  Or feel free to do so yourself. :-)
>
> The ini parsing functionality is available in the core anyway. The bundled 
> libcdb originates to year 2000, it needs to be reviewed and possibly updated 
> with the latest patches. In between, very good alternatives like Redis, 
> MongoDB or even upscaledb and others are available for key/value storage. So 
> ext/dba doesn't look like something that needs to be ungently available 
> today. 
> 
> The bins might be available as patching the config is easy, or even just with 
> using the Berkeley DB libs. However, the bug tracker is silent, which is not 
> good. There was no testing since over 5 years on Windows side, there was 
> likely no testing in PHP 7 as it's always disabled. IMHO selling that state 
> just as is for stable is dangerous. In addition, at least qdbm, not sure with 
> tcadb, could be supported. And the bundled libcdb is questionable anyway.
> 
> It's an if/else question, as for me it's a decision that should be in favor 
> of the quality. That would require some time to be guaranteed. I'd ask you to 
> please keep it only for master, so there's enough time for all the complex 
> work. Clear, some bugs are always there, there's no reason to omit the usual 
> QA work. Please keep the incentive, really appreciated!

Okay, I'm going to revert the commits to PHP 5.6-7.1, leaving only
master. :-)

-- 
Christoph M. Becker


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