> On 14/08/2016, at 2:47 AM, w...@wkhudgins.info wrote:
> 
> On 2016-08-13 04:34, Simon Welsh wrote:
>>> On 2/08/2016, at 8:52 AM, w...@wkhudgins.info wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> I recently emailed the group about submitting an RFC for str_begins() and 
>>> str_ends() functions. The RFC has now been officially submitted and is 
>>> viewable at:
>>> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/add_str_begin_and_end_functions
>>> The github PR may be found at:
>>> https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/2049
>>> Hope to be hearing about this,
>>> Will
>> Firstly, the argument ordering is the wrong way round for a string
>> function. String functions — especially search-related ones — are
>> haystack, needle (see strpos, strstr, strcspn, strpbrk, etc).
>> Secondly, I feel like this RFC does need to include that it’s a BC
>> break by introducing new global functions. A quick search shows that
>> SugarCRM[1] already implements str_begin and str_end functions and
>> there’s likely to be other projects that do too.
>> [1]:
>> https://github.com/sugarcrm/sugarcrm_dev/blob/ae189cfa4ed4edd6a4e1e0d9d1d5ec66f46a0b74/include/utils.php#L2082-L2090
>> --
>> Simon Welsh
> 
> You are correct, functions like strpos and strstr do follow (haystack, 
> needle) but functions like str_replace follow the format (needle, haystack). 
> Because I did these functions with the underscore, it made sense to make the 
> functions follow the format found in other str_* functions. If the functions 
> were changed to be strbegin, stribegin, strend, and striend, then it would 
> make sense to follow the (haystack, needle) format. However, I think adding 
> the underscore greatly improves the readability of these functions. And if 
> the functions are named with an underscore, I think it should follow the 
> format found in the other underscore functions.

str_replace and str_ireplace are the only str_* functions that don’t take the 
full string (haystack) as the first argument. str_pad, str_repeat, str_split 
and str_word_count all take the full string first even if there are other 
compulsory arguments.

Also, these functions are replacements for current usage of 
strpos/strrpos/substr_compare, so I feel like the argument ordering should 
match those rather than another function that isn’t closely related in 
functionality.

> 
> Good call on the BC break, I had not thought about it breaking userland 
> functions with the same name.
> 
> -Will

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