> -----Original Message----- > From: Joe Watkins [mailto:pthre...@pthreads.org] > Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 3:41 PM > To: Dmitry Stogov <dmi...@zend.com> > Cc: Björn Larsson <bjorn.x.lars...@telia.com>; Phil Sturgeon > <pjsturg...@gmail.com>; Krakjo <krak...@php.net>; PHP internals > <internals@lists.php.net> > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC Discussion] Typed Properties > > Morning Dmitry, > > > This should be a error. I also think, that "public" might be omitted, > > and it should be possible to write "int $bar, $foo" > > Omitting public might be nice, but also totally separate, you should be able > to > omit it for untyped properties too. > > > You say - C, C++, Java, HHVM, etc - all made worse decision? OK > > No. C, C++, C#, and Java had a different decision to make.
I don't think the decision is fundamentally different. It's fundamentally very similar if not identical. > [public] int foo, bar; > > It is obvious that bar is an int in any of those languages precisely because > it > necessarily has a type. > > Why we should jump to the same conclusion, in a system where properties do > not necessarily have types is not clear to me. Because we're dealing with a single statement, and we already have the concept that a modifier for that statement is enforced throughout the statement - I don't see how whether that modifier is mandatory or not makes any meaningful difference. Having an access modifier affect the entire statement, while a type modifier affecting only the variable next to it - is extremely inconsistent. If Private Person $p, Car $c; works, why shouldn't: Private Person $p, public Car $c; Work as well? In addition to being inconsistent, it also calls for poor coding practices - mixing typed and untyped declarations in a single statement - as well as different types in a single declaration. In that context, what drove other languages to pick their syntax and force developers to separate declaration of different variables types into different statements - applies exactly in the same manner for all other languages, us included. Zeev
