> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brandon Savage [mailto:bran...@brandonsavage.net]
> Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 7:44 PM
> To: PHP internals <internals@lists.php.net>
> Subject: [PHP-DEV] Specific incident in relationship to the proposed Code of
> Conduct
> 
> Open to suggestions/comments on this. I'll work on pull requests to Derrick's
> repo over the next couple of days to let folks share their thoughts.


I've been reading the mini-thread that followed this message, and I'm 
wondering, almost out loud:
Isn't it obvious we're trying to create an amateur drive-by judicial system, 
borrowing ideas from the law (some mostly universal, some not), oversimplifying 
 them (amateurishly, as we would as amateurs) and intending to put amateur 
investigators and judges in charge?  A system that will definitely not have the 
countless checks and balances real world judicial systems have (which still 
fail frequently enough, so they're far from being perfect). 

To me, that's DOA.

I think that the case you brought up could be very easily solved in a 
penalty-free CoC:
1. One of the mediation team members contacts Gary (privately) - either 
proactively or as a response to a complaint, pointing out to him that a PR like 
this, even as a joke, reflects badly on the project and may be considered by 
some as in violation of the CoC.
2. Gary, who obviously meant no harm to anybody, says 'Sure, didn't think 
that'll offend anybody, but I'll refrain from doing it in the future'.
3. Case closed.

We seem over-focused on the situation where the person's response in #2 would 
be ignoring the request from the mediation team, or worse, where the likelihood 
of that is slim to non-existent.

Zeev 

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