On 11 January 2016 at 09:12, Rouven Weßling <m...@rouvenwessling.de> wrote:

>
> > On 11 Jan 2016, at 07:57, Scott Arciszewski <sc...@paragonie.com> wrote:
> >
> > Does adding Argon2 as a possible choice for password_hash() +
> > password_verify() need an RFC? Or can I just submit a pull request?
>
> The original RFC (https://wiki.php.net/rfc/password_hash) contained the
> following text:
>
> > I'd propose the following policy for updating the default hashing
> algorithm in future releases of PHP.
> >
> > * Any new algorithm must be in core for at least 1 full release of PHP
> prior to becoming default. So if scrypt is added in 5.5.5, it wouldn't be
> eligible for default until 5.7 (since 5.6 would be the full release). But
> if jcrypt (making it up) was added in 5.6.0, it would also be eligible for
> default at 5.7.0.
> > * The default should only change on a full release (5.6.0, 6.0.0, etc)
> and not on a revision release. The only exception to this is in an
> emergency when a critical security flaw is found in the current default.
> > * For a normal (non-emergency) change in default, an RFC shall be issued
> for the update of the default algorithm, following normal RFC rules.
>
> So technically I don’t think it would be necessary to have an RFC to add
> another algorithm, though I think it might be nice as this is certainly a
> place where things shouldn’t be changed willy nilly.
>
> > It won't be changing the default in 7.1, and IIRC this sort of change
> > was already agreed upon as part of the original password_hash() RFC.
>
> I’m not really qualified to discuss the merits of the algorithm but a
> couple of questions:
>
> * Is there already a crypt scheme for Argon2? Or are there any efforts to
> define one? It would good if PHP wouldn’t be an island.
> * Back in July, when it won the PHC, it wasn’t deemed production ready as
> they wanted to make a few tweaks. Is that completed?
> * Are you proposing to use Argon2d or Argon2i?
>
> Lastly, I think it would be a good start to implement Argon2 in ext-hash.
>
> Best regards
> Rouven
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I was considering the same for adding scrypt; however there (isn't|wasn't|I
couldn't find) a crypt scheme for it and having a custom algorithm
identifier for php seemed like a bad idea.

~C

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