>> -----Original Message----- >> From: Derick Rethans [mailto:der...@php.net] >> Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2016 12:57 PM >> To: Michael Heap >> Cc: Sara Golemon; Junade Ali; PHP internals >> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Deprecation of the Error Control Operator (@ >> symbol) >> >> On Tue, 5 Jan 2016, Michael Heap wrote: >> >> > >> > On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 5:45 AM, Sara Golemon <poll...@php.net> wrote: >> > >> > > On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 6:52 AM, Junade Ali <m...@junade.com> wrote: >> > > > I am looking to submit an RFC in order to remove the error >> > > > suppression operator in PHP, namely the @ symbol. >> > > > >> > > Forwarding a suggestion twitter/@Beryllium9: >> > > >> > > How about a global "disable error suppression" setting? That way a >> > > project lead could enforce it for their codebase (and guarantee that >> > > devs "aren't lazy"), but PHP doesn't lose its pragmatism? >> >> > Sounds like the xdebug.scream or the Scream PECL extension ( >> > https://pecl.php.net/package/scream) to me. >> > >> > +1 for baking this functionality into core >> >> That's going to mean an INI setting.. that hosters could abuse. Having > an INI >> setting like this as part of core is IMO not a great idea. > > I agree. Perhaps through a declare() statement instead? We could easily > make it file-based, so that the declare() statement only affects the local > file, or we could make it global for the entire request. > > Zeev > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >
I can't agree more - it's a pain such thing as @ exists. However we have a bigger issue here - a lot PHP function returns false AND raises E_WARNING. fopen, fwrite, fread, stream_select.... a lot of them which I use daily. Before deprecating @ operator I think we should make a RFC which cover unified setting to convert all E_* to exceptions (like PhpWarningException). I know it's just a temporary solution, because exception should be more specific, but it's a huge amount of work to replace all errors and warnings with proper exceptions. Of course it's possible to convert all errors and warnings to exceptions using set_error_handler(), but it will be next boilerplate code for all apps. -- Cheers, Grzegorz Zdanowski. -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
