> Am 23.11.2015 um 15:52 schrieb Rasmus Lerdorf <ras...@lerdorf.com>: > >> On Nov 23, 2015, at 15:21, Anthony Ferrara <ircmax...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Rasmus, >> >>> I think this was mostly a PR failure on my part actually. If I/we are a bit >>> more careful about how we handle similar issues and the people lurking with >>> itchy Twitter trigger fingers would spend a bit more time looking into the >>> details we should all be able to get along and get a good launch with no >>> controversy on Dec.3. >> >> Sorry, but when you make a statement like: >> >>> Nobody is going to take a .0.0 and push it straight to production. >> >> THAT is more than a PR failure. That's a perspective failure. > > I still don't see anyone going straight to production with 7.0.0 unless they > have been extensively testing the RCs. And if they have been extensively > testing the RCs then any issues in them must not be impacting them. 7.0.0 is > the wake up call for all the people who haven't been testing the RCs and as > such it will generate more issues, regardless of how long we wait. That's why > I still wouldn't suggest anyone go straight to production with 7.0.0 even if > we delay another full year. This has nothing to do with being cavalier nor > having a perspective failure about anything, it has to do with being > realistic and pragmatic about how things work based on years of experience > doing this. > > Every single release in the history of PHP has been a compromise. We have RCs > until the set of fixes from one RC to the next is free of major issues. There > will always be more issues, so we have to make a release decision at some > point. > > -Rasmus
I think every party has valid points and I think Rasmus is right. We'll always have some bugs where others think it's worthy a RC. I don't disagree with putting the bugfix into the 7.0.0 release (without further RC). But after all it's affecting a rather edge case; just the symtables. I have yet to see code which would break without the fix. It wouldn't be too bad to have it in 7.0.1 now. It's not a PR failure. The only thing which harmed PR maybe is having put this up to public discussion, and then still... But still, that's Anatol and Kalle who have to decide whether a further RC is necessary. Please let's wait for their opinion now. Thanks, Bob -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
