> On Aug 6, 2015, at 3:52 AM, Niklas Keller <m...@kelunik.com> wrote: > > Scott, could you setup a RFC with a vote, so we can decide? > > Nikita proposed those two options: > >> 1) Error is to be used in cases where an error is attributable to >> programmer mistake. >> > > >> 2) Error signifies a failure condition that the programmer is discouraged >> (and unlikely to want) to handle. It should only be dealt with at the top >> level. > > > I'm in favor of 2), I would phrase it like: Error should be used if a > repetitive call with the same input parameters would _permanently_ result > in a failure, otherwise Exception. > > Regards, Niklas
I’m in favor of 1), as this was my original intention of the Error branch of exceptions. Errors should be attributable to a programming mistake that should be corrected. Exception should be thrown for unexpected conditions that are not due to programmer error, but instead things like IO or permission errors. I think this is how exceptions thrown from core functions (and all functions or methods in extensions) should be organized. Based on this interpretation, random_int() should throw an Error if $min > $max and random_bytes() should throw an Error if $length <= 0. random_bytes() and random_int() should throw an Exception if random data cannot be generated. Another quote from Nikita’s message to the prior thread: > Another interesting aspect are the zpp calls. Currently these will throw a > warning and return NULL in weak mode and throw a TypeError in strict mode. > I wonder whether we should be using zpp_throw for new functions, so a > TypeError is also thrown in weak mode. Continuing to use the old > warning+NULL behavior was a BC concern, which we don't have for new > functions. The reason why I think this is worth considering, is that if all > other error conditions of a function already throw, then ordinary zpp will > still add one case where a different type is returned on error. This makes > random_int from a function returning int, to a function returning int|null. I would also be in favor of throwing TypeError from zpp calls in new functions (and quite frankly, from zpp calls in all functions, including old functions). Regards, Aaron Piotrowski -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php