> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christopher Jones [mailto:christopher.jo...@oracle.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2015 1:12 AM
> To: internals@lists.php.net
> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Benchmark Results for PHP Master 2015-07-30
> 
> 
> 
> On 30/07/2015 11:12 pm, Niklas Keller wrote:
> > 2015-07-30 14:42 GMT+02:00 Andone, Bogdan <bogdan.and...@intel.com>:
> >
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Niklas Keller [mailto:m...@kelunik.com]
> >>> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 1:47 PM
> >>> To: Pierre Joye
> >>> Cc: lp_benchmark_robot; PHP internals; l...@lists.01.org
> >>> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Benchmark Results for PHP Master 2015-07-30
> >>>
> >>> 2015-07-30 11:57 GMT+02:00 Pierre Joye <pierre....@gmail.com>:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> Does someone has a contact there?
> >>>>
> >>>> It would be nicer to have these results combined with what we
> pushed
> >>>> on qa.php.net as well.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>> Pierre
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thought about that as well, results per mail aren't that useful,
> >>> especially as they're badly formatted for me in GMail (no fixed
> font).
> >>> A graph visualizing those numbers would be nice.
> >>>
> >>> Regards, Niklas
> >>
> >> Hi Guys,
> >>
> >> We are glad that our small ticking spam start to be observed :) !
> >>
> >> We would like to offer valuable information to the community related
> to
> >> performance trends of the PHP project on Intel platforms based on
> daily
> >> builds
> >> and we are open for suggestions for making these results relevant.
> >>
> >> We chose to share our numbers as plain text mails for easily seeing
> the
> >> summary
> >> snapshots on discussion lists without the need of other clicks.
> >> Everybody agrees that plain text is ugly and, yes, you need to have
> fixed
> >> font in
> >> place for having the table formatted correctly. Let’s discuss a
> better way
> >> of doing;
> >> integration with qa.php.net is possible if we find the right
> interface
> >> for sharing
> >> data in an automated way.
> >>
> >> Normally <l...@lists.01.org> should be the official entry for feedbacks
> and
> >> requests but,
> >> unfortunately, it is not yet operational, so I will be your direct
> contact
> >> as I am part
> >> of the team which deploys this project.
> >>
> >>
> >> Kind regards,
> >> Bogdan
> >>
> >>
> > Hi Bogdan,
> >
> > I think absolute numbers (instead of a %-change) would be better
> suited for
> > visualizing performance over time.
> >
> > Regards, Niklas
> >
> 
> I agree on using absolute numbers.  With percentages it is not
> immediately obvious whether the change was good or bad.
> 
> Including the build options would be good.
> 
> Chris
> 
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We can work on build option documentation. Most probably we will offer a link 
on the 01.org containing details on the environment configuration.
Concerning absolute numbers I am afraid it will be difficult to publish them in 
this way. Our intention is to allow you to see progresses trend in the context 
of Zend PHP project only. We would like to avoid the temptation to use the 
absolute numbers for comparisons with other projects; they might be misleading 
and could drive to wrong conclusions if they are removed from the context.

If the PHP baseline is relevant, the fact you see absolute numbers or percents 
should not make a real difference. We chose php-7.0.0beta1 in a somehow 
subjective way as they are no official PHP7 releases yet but we can take a 
PHP5.x release baseline if it looks more relevant.

Kind Regards,
Bogdan

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