Hi 2015-03-13 6:02 GMT-03:00 Patrick ALLAERT <patrickalla...@php.net>:
> Le mer. 11 mars 2015 à 22:44, Marcio Almada <marcio.w...@gmail.com> a > écrit : > >> 2015-03-11 6:27 GMT-03:00 Lester Caine <les...@lsces.co.uk>: >> >> > On 11/03/15 09:05, wp12173047-156224 wp12173047-156224 wrote: >> >> > Most of the examples being shown are examples of simple bad programming >> > practice that needs fixing anyway, and I would expect a proper code >> > review to have picked them up, so don't see that adding the check in PHP >> > is essential. It would however be a useful addition but in the E_STRICT >> > category ... not that I want to maintain that, but being able to ignore >> > those errors until such time as it is appropriate to fix them. >> > > I don't really see how this favors E_STRICT over E_NOTICE as any of this > type of errors can be displayed/hidden independently. > > >> I think this is a valid argument to keep the E_STRICT error level option >> for the secondary voting. >> That's a very useful information, thanks :) >> > > It also depends on your perception of E_STRICT. This level has been > introduced in 5.0 without being part of E_ALL in order to, among other > things, avoid too much pain in the *** while migrating from 4.x to 5.x. > As of 5.4, E_ALL contains E_STRICT and the difference between E_STRICT and > E_NOTICE/E_WARNING is certainly not in terms of severity. > Using an undefined variable or property => notice. > Trying to get property of non-object => notice. > Use of undefined constant => notice > > For this reason, I think we should use the standard notice/warning/error > levels as much as possible. You may take a look at Nikita's "Reclassify > E_STRICT RFC" for more info about it. > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/reclassify_e_strict > > Cheers, > Patrick > I talked to Nikita earlier today, in order to try to align the strict arg count RFC with https://wiki.php.net/rfc/reclassify_e_strict and the conclusion was the following: It's a good thing to reclassify E_STRICT as this simplifies PHP error model and resolves the currently unclear role of strict standards notices. As a supporter of Nikita's idea, I'm removing E_STRICT from the voting options. Consider this my collaboration to help to unifiy the error level model and go a bit farther from the current "error level buffet" state we got ourselves historically, on PHP. This leaves us with E_WARNING vs E_NOTICE and I'm sufficiently comfortable to allow a secondary voting between these two error levels. Thanks, Márcio
