On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 12:23 AM, Will Fitch <willfi...@php.net> wrote:
> > Sherif - I’m just going to be straight here. I haven’t seen support for > your proposal at all in this thread. You continue to try and make this > case, but it continues to be shot down with absolutely valid issues, and > your only responsive action is to argue back. Why aren’t you considering > alternatives? Everything - and I do mean everything - that you want is > available in pecl/http, and there’s already an RFC to get it into core. > Why can’t you get behind that and either support it, or move to propose an > alternative that is supportable by at least someone. Your current proposal > is not supported by anyone in this thread, and you still can’t see that. > > I admire and appreciate your efforts in making PHP better, but it’s time > to go back to the drawing board on this proposal. Everyone is against it, > and I feel this thread’s patience is running thin. > I think you're looking too closely at the problem to have an objective view. While I appreciate your continued input and feedback, I don't believe you're fairly judging my motives or my objectives. Who says I'm not considering alternatives? You have to keep in mind the RFC is still in draft. I'm technically not even putting up for discussion yet because I've failed to make a coherent proposal. I get that. I'd still like to hear what others have to say. I will make my own assessments of the collective facts. In the mean time I'm OK with the discussion of my initial proposal being objectionable. I gladly embrace failure as I expect to learn from it. I'm not sure why it is you feel as though me having a technical discussion with the community equates to me agreeing with everyone else's opinion or ending a discussion on the note that it is no longer useful because everyone disagrees with me. I gather valuable knowledge from disagreement and intend to pursue those disagreements until I can reach a fully objective outlook on all of the moving parts at hand. I don't wish to abandon this discussion because the initial proposal has no support. I'm sorry if you feel that you are no longer interested in the discussion, but can you at least refrain from cluttering the discussion aggressively with your synopsis? Everyone is providing valuable objective outlooks and those that have no more objectivity have seemingly refrained from further discussion. That I'm perfectly OK with. What I'm not OK with is someone that feels they must terminate the discussion because there is disagreement. I am in the very process of understanding others' disagreements. Please do not impede on my efforts by assuming you have any idea what is going on in my head. Thanks.
