On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 1:34 AM, Zeev Suraski <z...@zend.com> wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Andrey Andreev [mailto:n...@devilix.net]
>> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 1:15 AM
>> To: Zeev Suraski
>> Cc: Andrea Faulds; Stas Malyshev; Dmitry Stogov; PHP Internals
>> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Safe Casting Functions
>>
>> > While it doesn't explicitly say so, it's clear that one of the goals
>> > of the RFC is make it easier for a 'strict typing' RFC to be accepted
>> > in the future.  This is a clear indication this constitutes a
>> > fundamental
>> change to the core language.
>>
>> I'd argue that it has the exact opposite goal - to be able to say "use
>> to_string(), to_int(), etc; we don't need strict type hinting".
>
> You may be right, I may have misinterpreted the rationale - but I think the
> consequences are still the same.  If this (in the eyes of the author) undoes
> the need for a feature as fundamental as strict typing, how can it be just a
> bunch of simple functions?

Well, that might be the author's rationale, but you (probably)
misinterpreted that exactly because it's not a *technical* limitation
for strict type hints in the future. Personally, I only care about the
technical side of it.

As far as intentions and politics are concerned - if we don't play
politicts for this one, we shouldn't play them for scalar hints as
well. I've said this about every similar proposal so far: It is
useful, so I don't mind having it, but I *also* want strict scalar
type hints with the same syntax as for objects. So that's that - it's
just not the same thing.

Cheers,
Andrey.

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