On 21/10/14 12:11, Rowan Collins wrote: > Lester Caine wrote (on 21/10/2014): >> If we are going down the root of keeping PHP7 as ascii only in the core, >> then ustring probably makes sense, but it does not address many of the >> areas where unicode is really needed. > > Just a quick point: most of the core is not ASCII. PHP strings are byte > strings, completely divorced from any encoding. A few native functions > assume ISO8859-1 (or possibly Windows CP1252), but mostly they just > juggle which ever bytes you give them. > > The main exception I can think of is that numbers are often handled > specially, with digits and separators as defined by ASCII. But since > we're talking UTF-8, that doesn't need to change.
Pierre had proposed restricting that to ascii as a way of addressing the inconsistencies that arise because some areas do not currently make a distinction. >> Handling unicode content outside >> the core is working reasonably at the moment, it is the problems such as >> using unicode keys for arrays which is the main area where unicoe is >> needed in PHP7 and so a more embedded handling is needed which may cut >> across yet another content wrapper? > > I do think this is an important thing to consider, though. If this > extension is genuinely just meant as a more modern and more performant > way of doing things which mbstring and intl can already do, that needs > to be clear in the way it's documented and publicised. If this gets > publicised as "better Unicode support", users are naturally going to > expect UString objects to start appearing in core, and in other > extensions, and be disappointed that it's still just a toolbox for their > own string handling. This is where a proper discussion on just what is trying to be achieved is important, before discussing tangents? -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
